Music Ministry Today

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by tyhuff

what about emotionalism? vs. a real presence of God. we have to be careful of that. I see both. because so much of it is learned.

good point, but if you watch the person...are they emotional in prayer, worship off of the platform, if so, then maybe that is just who they are. THE SAME GOES FOR PREACHERS!!!!!

[Monkeyman]

Here is a lost art...REHEARSAL. When I came up, we practiced ALL of the time.
Mon night, thursday night, saturday night, and before service on Sunday...now??? Yeah right!

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Here is a lost art...REHEARSAL. When I came up, we practiced ALL of the time.
Mon night, thursday night, saturday night, and before service on Sunday...now??? Yeah right!

Ask SoCal 'bout some of our practices.......on second thought don't. I used to be a real jack donkey!!!! I hope I've gained a little wisdom since.(Actually, nobody at my current church even knows that I used to play and sing! )

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Here is a lost art...REHEARSAL. When I came up, we practiced ALL of the time.
Mon night, thursday night, saturday night, and before service on Sunday...now??? Yeah right!

I remember rehearsals where we had church,how you practice is how you play, that goes for church as well.
where worship in practice continues over into the service, the problem is sometimes the PASTOR is not in the flow. A BIG PROBLEM.

He can't wait to get the mike! lol little carnel.... it aint God unless he is up! lol

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by tyhuff

I remember rehearsals where we had church,how you practice is how you play, that goes for church as well.
where worship in practice continues over into the service, the problem is sometimes the PASTOR is not in the flow. A BIG PROBLEM.

He can't wait to get the mike! lol little carnel.... it aint God unless he is up! lol

The preaching is one of the scriptural dictates of a service so it is one of the most important parts. Choir and praise singing is not.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

The preaching is one of the scriptural dictates of a service so it is one of the most important parts. Choir and praise singing is not.

obviously you are a preacher, there is some people that music ministers to that sermons wont. songs that have the Word of God in them minister as well.

try letting praise and worship do your service, it will refresh you! The miracle you need is on the other side of your worship.No matter what it is, it can be financial, healing etc....

preaching is for the saints and preacher. worship is straight to Him.
this is from my experience. you know when the worship is right it is easier to minister, you agree??

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by tyhuff

obviously you are a preacher, there is some people that music ministers to that sermons wont. songs that have the Word of God in them minister as well.

try letting praise and worship do your service, it will refresh you! The miracle you need is on the other side of your worship.No matter what it is, it can be financial, healing etc....

preaching is for the saints and preacher. worship is straight to Him.
this is from my experience. you know when the worship is right it is easier to minister, you agree??

Wrong!!!!!! I was a music director for 18 years. Had a great choir and program....

BTW, preaching is secondarily for people and primarily for Him. The entire service is for Him and for us in a lesser way. That why we call it a 'worship' service.

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

In churches where I was music director, we had more problems with adulturers than homos!

I say get all of these:

1. adulturers
2. homos
3. sexual predators
4. arrogant jerks
5. backbiters

OFF THE PLATFORM!!!!!

Ummm...we would have to get a whole new crew!!!!!!!!!!! lol...jk...I see less of homos than I see of the above mentioned.....

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

good point, but if you watch the person...are they emotional in prayer, worship off of the platform, if so, then maybe that is just who they are. THE SAME GOES FOR PREACHERS!!!!!

That is true! I heard someone say that you can be emotional without being spiritual, but you really can't be spiritual without being emotional...to an extent I agree. And when it comes to worship, it comes from deep within, and thus, it should be emotional.......but not rehearsed emotions.

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Here is a lost art...REHEARSAL. When I came up, we practiced ALL of the time.
Mon night, thursday night, saturday night, and before service on Sunday...now??? Yeah right!

Yes Yes Yes.... pray all you want but if the musicians and singings don't get on the same page with the music, it is going to be a mess.....People need to know who is leading, and who is following and everyone needs to be in the same key!lol.but there is sooo much more to it than that! We are actually dealing with this right now where we are!

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Actually, nobody at my current church even knows that I used to play and sing! )

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

Ummm...we would have to get a whole new crew!!!!!!!!!!! lol...jk...I see less of homos than I see of the above mentioned.....

That is true! I heard someone say that you can be emotional without being spiritual, but you really can't be spiritual without being emotional...to an extent I agree. And when it comes to worship, it comes from deep within, and thus, it should be emotional.......but not rehearsed emotions.

Yes Yes Yes.... pray all you want but if the musicians and singings don't get on the same page with the music, it is going to be a mess.....People need to know who is leading, and who is following and everyone needs to be in the same key!lol.but there is sooo much more to it than that! We are actually dealing with this right now where we are!

Originally Posted by Pianoman

In churches where I was music director, we had more problems with adulturers than homos!

I say get all of these:

1. adulturers
2. homos
3. sexual predators
4. arrogant jerks
5. backbiters

OFF THE PLATFORM!!!!!

For the record, the above list of folks that need to get off the platform includes preachers too!!!!!

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

For the record, the above list of folks that need to get off the platform includes preachers too!!!!!

lol!!! Ya know, One good , real, prayer meeting could solved things like this! btw, I agree with you! When the pastor has these attributes, sometimes, that gives way for others to act the same way...