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Old 06-20-2008, 11:03 PM
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It's the attitude that I took offence with. "My team is better than your team."
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Great peace have they that love thy law and nothing shall offend them.
Amen! Great scripture brother!
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:24 AM
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Great peace have they that love thy law and nothing shall offend them.
Was Jesus offended by those who sold in the temple?
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:26 AM
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Yes I'm serious. These Elders are holding to the old paths. Time will tell.
Yes, time will tell if the "old paths" are synonomous with traditions of men or principles of God.
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if Tim Rutledge holds them in reputation and worthy of double-honor, then great. I know one in that list that I have a great deal of respect for as well; the others I don't know so well, but have heard good things about them.

In my opinion, the WPF just does NOT want to remove the ancient landmarks that their fathers/elders have set up and do not want to build again those things that they once destroyed; I think that is great.They just want to abide by and enforce the bylaws that they and all other licensed UPC'ers have been signing their name to re-commit to and abide by for years.

I think these are all good things.
Okay ...but be consistent. The stance that they have made in what they accept and what they shun is so illogical that I could not imagine having to explain it to any convert with three brain cells. The UPCI bylaws are not a valid enough defense to explain the hypocrisy of the stance to someone who knows nothing about them. The bylaws are not a substitute for the Bible believe it or not, so if you don't have scripture, you sure better have logic or you have nothing.
The problem with many people is that they are more concerned about the people they have and not the ones we are meant to be evangelizing (which is the manifest function of the church)...Sadly the lack of growth in many of those churches bear this out. They develop a "Hold the fort" mentality and not a "Take the hills" mentality.
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Not even a silly, little old TV advertisement?
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Was Jesus offended by those who sold in the temple?
Jesus was angry and saddened.. not offended. The comparison between this post and cleaning up the temple is uncomparable.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:29 AM
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Not even a silly, little old TV advertisement?
I and we were not offended. We just marked those that caused division. And kept going forward. Have any of you been to WPF Lately?
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:38 AM
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Okay ...but be consistent. The stance that they have made in what they accept and what they shun is so illogical that I could not imagine having to explain it to any convert with three brain cells. The UPCI bylaws are not a valid enough defense to explain the hypocrisy of the stance to someone who knows nothing about them. The bylaws are not a substitute for the Bible believe it or not, so if you don't have scripture, you sure better have logic or you have nothing.
The problem with many people is that they are more concerned about the people they have and not the ones we are meant to be evangelizing (which is the manifest function of the church)...Sadly the lack of growth in many of those churches bear this out. They develop a "Hold the fort" mentality and not a "Take the hills" mentality.
Logic is not in the bible. It's a faith thing. Time will tell what will happen with both fellowships and hopefully God blesses both groups. Your logic leads to not being able to stand for anything without being hypoctical. Not rationalizing everything would be a good beginning. I know.. I'm mean spirited.
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Logic is not in the bible. It's a faith thing. Time will tell what will happen with both fellowships and hopefully God blesses both groups. Your logic leads to not being able to stand for anything without being hypoctical. Not rationalizing everything would be a good beginning. I know.. I'm mean spirited.
Bro. I stand for plenty...but all my stands are biblical and consistent. Not stubborn and traditional. The Bible I read is very logical to me and there are no inconsistent stands.
My point is that you do yourselves no favor with a stance that is not Biblical and illogical.
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