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Old 09-27-2013, 08:36 PM
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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

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You have to admit, this is much different. People are losing jobs, businesses are going out of business, and people are losing insurance because of Obamacare.

There's a lady in my church who's had kidney problems most of her life. She has weekly dialysis. Obamacare is going to stop providing the care she needs once it kicks in. For her, this was a death sentence, unless God performs a miracle.
Im calling you out about the bolded part. How and why is Obamacare not giving her dialysis. I don't want rumors I want actual links to text in the bill. Ill wait. I wont hold my breath though cause I need to breathe to live.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:41 PM
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Im calling you out about the bolded part. How and why is Obamacare not giving her dialysis. I don't want rumors I want actual links to text in the bill. Ill wait. I wont hold my breath though cause I need to breathe to live.
She may not totally lose Treatment but the quality may be reduced


America's leading kidney patient organizations are very worried. As they should be. On July 1, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) – the federal agency that oversees the Medicare program – set off an alarm throughout the kidney community by announcing plans to cut funding for life-sustaining dialysis treatments by 9.4 percent, or approximately $970 million. The public comment period to this proposal closed September 3, with a final rule to be published early November after CMS reviews comments and input.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:51 PM
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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

"More Health Coverage At Less Cost For Many Young People"

http://finance.yahoo.com/video/young..._autoplay=true

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If you make $22,000.00 per year, your monthly rate for health insurance would be about $50.00 - $60.00 monthly.

This IS Affordable Care!
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:59 AM
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"More Health Coverage At Less Cost For Many Young People"

http://finance.yahoo.com/video/young..._autoplay=true

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If you make $22,000.00 per year, your monthly rate for health insurance would be about $50.00 - $60.00 monthly.

This IS Affordable Care!
Only because someone else is picking up the tab, like we can stand more spending and debt
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:38 AM
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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

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"More Health Coverage At Less Cost For Many Young People"

http://finance.yahoo.com/video/young..._autoplay=true

An example
If you make $22,000.00 per year, your monthly rate for health insurance would be about $50.00 - $60.00 monthly.

This IS Affordable Care!
You do realize that for someone making $22,000/year, $50 a month is a lot of money.
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:30 AM
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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

If Obamacare was so fantastic, why are the legislators exempting themselves? So what that they've been doing themselves favors for years! The point is that they KNOW its not good for them. Optimism for something inherently bad won't change how bad this legislation is. The 2010 midterms with the historic gains for the GOP were based on Obamacare. The Democrat led Congress along with Obama rushed this legislation through before the newly elected Congress could be sworn in because they knew it would never pass. The motive was corrupt, the process corrupt, the result will be corrupt. Its an economy killer. Its more redistributionist economic theory that will diminish out productivity. But then again socialists aren't interested in productivity.
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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

Based on a Manhattan Institute analysis of the HHS numbers, Obamacare will increase underlying insurance rates for younger men by an average of 97 to 99 percent, and for younger women by an average of 55 to 62 percent. Worst off is North Carolina, which will see individual-market rates triple for women, and quadruple for men.

“Premiums nationwide will also be around 16 percent lower than originally expected,” HHS cheerfully announces in its press release. But that’s a ruse."

27-year-olds will face rate increases as high as 279 percent

Worst off was Nebraska, where the difference between the cheapest plan under the old system and under Obamacare was 279 percent for men, and 227 percent for women: more than triple the old rate.

40-year-olds, surprisingly, will face a similar picture. The cheapest exchange plan for the average enrollee, compared to what a 40-year-old would pay today, will cost an average of 99 percent more for men, and 62 percent for women.

HHS’ silence on the difference between Obamacare’s insurance premiums and those available today tell you everything you need to know. Rates are going higher. And if you’re healthy, or you’re young, the Obama administration expects you to do your duty and pay up.

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Old 09-28-2013, 11:16 AM
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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

I wonder if any of AFF's socialists will ever be honest enough to tell the truth when their own rates go up. The dishonesty of some when they try to say the rates have gone down because of the statement "the rates are lower than what they expected them to be!" Duh!!! That's a reduction? Give me a break!

And for the records, my rates have gone up and the benefits have gone down. More for me to pay on doctors visits and more for me to pay in my part of the hospital bills.

It seems for some it doesn't make any difference how far they stretch the truth, as long as they are supporting their "king!"

Yes, I'm angry! I'm tired of listening to the lies of the left. I listened to the speech yesterday and simply shook my head. He's cut the deficit in half???? That's what he said! And his followers just swooned! Give me a break.

The character and integrity of anyone that gives the democrats a blessing on exempting themselves from ObamaCare is sure in question. The reason this has happened, and is happening more and more is because we turn and look the other way. The D. C. in Washington, D. C. stands for "Deceit Central."

God help us.

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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

WHERE'S EDDIE?

During the 80's you could drive around Fort Worth and Dallas for a while, and you would notice bright red bumper stickers that proudly proclaim, "I'm mad, too, Eddie!"

Eddie Chiles was "the mad man of Texas!" Where's Eddie? We need some of your bumper stickers today. "I'm mad, too, Eddie!"

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Old 09-28-2013, 01:32 PM
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Re: Congress Exempted Themselves From Obamacare

And if it's so great why are they risking the lives of Dialysis patience by withholding $970 million from Medicare?
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