NT verses about who Jesus was/is

[BCsenior]

God will be born on the earth as a Son
OT … Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6
NT … Matthew 1:23, Luke 1:35, John 1:14, 1 Timothy 3:16

Father God and Jesus Christ both have the same names/titles
Lord ------------ Genesis 17:1 - Luke 2:11, etc.
Lord of hosts --- Malachi 2:14 - see Zechariah 14:16
Lord of glory --- Psalm 24:10 -- 1 Corinthians 2:8
Savior ---------- Isaiah 60:16 - Titus 2:13, etc.
Redeemer -------- Isaiah 49:26 - Galatians 3:13
I AM ------------ Exodus 3:14 -- John 8:24, etc.
Rock ------------ Isaiah 44:8 -- 1 Corinthians 10:4
King ------------ Psalm 74:12 -- Revelation 19:16
First and Last -- Isaiah 44:6 -- Rev.2:8, Rev.22:13
Alpha and Omega - See Rev.21:6 - Rev.22:13
Beginning and End See Rev.21:6 - Rev.22:13
compare --------- Isaiah 45:23 - Philippians 2:10-11

Jesus claimed to be God
Matthew 4:7

Jesus claimed to be “I AM”
(which is God’s name “forever”: see Exodus 3:14-15)
John 4:26, John 8:24, John 8:28, John 8:58, John 13:19,
John 18:6, John 18:8
In the original Greek ...
there is no “he” after “I AM” in any of the verses above!

And Jesus also hints that He is the great “I AM”:
John 6:35, John 6:51, John 8:12, John 10:7, John 10:11, John 11:25,
John 14:6, John 15:1

Jesus was the exact image of Father God
2 Corinthians 4:4, Hebrews 1:3, Philippians 2:6, Colossians 1:15,
Colossians 1:19, Colossians 2:9, John 14:9, 1 Timothy 3:16

Jesus claimed equality with Father God
John 5:18, John 5:23, John 10:30, John 10:33, John 10:36,
John 10:38, John 14:9, John 17:22, John 20:28-29

Others claimed Jesus was God, or equal to Father God
John 1:1-2 (see Rev.19:13), John 14:11, John 20:28, Acts 7:59,
Romans 9:5, Philippians 2:10-11, Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:8-13,
1 John 5:20, Jude 4

Jesus was the Creator of all things
John 1:3, John 1:10, Acts 3:15, Acts 10:37, 1 Corinthians 8:6,
Ephesians 3:9, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2, Hebrews 1:8-11

Jesus is the Sustainer of all things now
Colossians 1:17, Hebrews 1:3

Jesus had total power and authority over everything and everybody
Matthew 4:24, Matthew 8:16, Matthew 8:26, Luke 4:40-41, etc.

Jesus is the Giver of eternal life
John 4:14, John 5:21, John 6:27, John 10:27-28, John 11:25,
John 14:6, John 17:2, Hebrews 5:9, 1 John 1:1-2, 1 John 5:20

Many people called Jesus “the Son of God”
The Jews taught that “Son of God” and “Messiah”
signified equality with Father God:
John 1:41, John 4:25, Matthew 26:63
(and Matthew 16:16, John 20:31)
Therefore, the Jews taught Messiah = Christ = Son of God
Matthew 27:43, Luke 22:70, Matthew 14:33, Mark 1:1,
Luke 4:41, John 1:34, Acts 8:37, Hebrews 4:14

[coksiw]

Amen!!! Jesus is God.

The Trinity teaches that Jesus is a person of the Godhead, but Oneness, which is what most people believe in here, including me, teaches that Jesus is God himself manifested in flesh.

When Jesus said "My Father" he was referring to the one who created the incarnation: the Holy Spirit, which is God himself. He could talk like that because he was 100% man. The Father, which is God, was fully inside that biological man. That's why he said that if you see him, you see the Father. He is the visible image of the Father, and the full expression of his nature. The term Son of God or Son of Man refers to the incarnation: God manifested in flesh.

It had to be 100% man, so he could take our place, and 100% God, so he could be without sin. Legit man: a human will, thirsty, pain of the suffering, the cross, and death, but without sin. It is like if God, voluntarily, submitted himself to the limitation of a human being in the incarnation.

Brother, there is a lot of material out there about this. The Oneness doctrine was the majority doctrine in the first and second generation of Christianity.

[diakonos]

Matt 4:7... really?

[Michael The Disciple]

Is this the thread that is supposed to show all 3 persons being God in like 20 verses? I dont see one here. I see plenty that Jesus is identified as being God.

[BCsenior]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Is this the thread that is supposed to show all 3 persons being God in like 20 verses? I dont see one here. I see plenty that Jesus is identified as being God.

Yes, sorry, but I still haven't found them on my computer.
Meanwhile, I could send you a NT. lol
Give me 10 minutes (to find them, not to send a NT).

Meanwhile ...
Oneness claims Jesus is God, and there is no Father God.
And no God the Holy Spirit.
Correct?

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by BCsenior

Yes, sorry, but I still haven't found them on my computer.
Meanwhile, I could send you a NT. lol
Give me 10 minutes (to find them, not to send a NT).

Meanwhile ...
Oneness claims Jesus is God, and there is no Father God.
And no God the Holy Spirit.
Correct?

We don't deny God the Father of the incarnation (Son of God). We don't deny either God as the Father of all creation.

We clearly say that the Holy Spirit is God himself, operating. God is Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord:

[2Co 3:17 KJV] 17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord [is], there [is] liberty. (find me one verse where Paul refers to the Lord that is not referring to Jesus Christ).

[Jhn 4:24 KJV] 24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

I don't think you fully know what Oneness believe.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by coksiw

We don't deny God the Father of the incarnation (Son of God). We don't deny either God as the Father of all creation.

We clearly say that the Holy Spirit is God himself, operating. God is Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Lord:

[2Co 3:17 KJV] 17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord [is], there [is] liberty. (find me one verse where Paul refers to the Lord that is not referring to Jesus Christ).

[Jhn 4:24 KJV] 24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

I don't think you fully know what Oneness believe.

I don't think Oneness truly know what they believe.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I don't think Oneness truly know what they believe.

I guess it is perception based on personal experience.
Brother, if you ask a Trinitarian, who is not a theologian, to explain it to you, you get an explanation of polytheism or practical oneness for prayer/singing/communicating to/about God.
But I leave it like this because it is a subjective topic.

My point is that obviously BCsenior doesn’t know what we believe and he should check it out before starting a discussion, so we can have a good debate.

[BCsenior]

Originally Posted by coksiw

I don't think you fully know what Oneness believe.

Thou art absolutely correct.
Who's willing to explain it to me?
How many of the following are God? ... F, J, HS
Thanks.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by BCsenior

Thou art absolutely correct.
Who's willing to explain it to me?
How many of the following are God? ... F, J, HS
Thanks.

It's all the same God.

Yaweh of the OT manifested himself in flesh in Jesus, and God is Spirit.

The term "Holy Spirit" refers to God himself as a Spirit doing something: creating, filling, orchestrating, etc...

The term Son of God refers to God incarnated

The term Father refers to God as the Father of all creation, including the incarnation.


Some people here may use more sophisticated terms, but I'll leave it like that. I hope it makes sense to you.

None of the verses you posted proves that they are different persons. They all can be interpreted as well with the Oneness.

Jesus praying to the Father can be perfectly explained by the fact that Jesus is 100% God, but also he had to be a 100% man so he could take our place. So yes, the man Jesus had to pray like we have to.