Canadian and American Healthcare ?

[Pragmatist]

Originally Posted by TRIPLE E

I know of a lady never smoked a day in her life but has lung cancer due to the working environment and second hand smoke from smokers. Nothing to do with poor lifestyle choices!

I thank God He has blessed us with such a wonderful country and healthcare system.It has its flaws but the pros sure outweigh the cons.

I didn't say all; I said a good number. The majority of diabetes and heart disease problems are lifestyle related also. That doesn't mean that there aren't congenital conditions that people have no control over.

[Trouvere]

Just so it is understood.Here in the US our taxes do pay for heathcare.It goes by your income.If you have nothing then you get a medicaid card.We don't have poor people walking around without healthcare.Its those of us who work that are paying and many because of the cost of living choose to go without healthcare.
My employer does pay a portion of mine which is great because I only pay
around 140.oo a month for a family plan my share.I get to choose my md and
can go out of network if I want.I can even submit a new md to my plan and if the
md approves it will pay him as well.So actually things aren't that bad here.
However I don't want higher taxes and cost of living.Canada is expensive to live.
My friend had to pay twice as much due to taxes and dollar amount for books that she used for a class than I did.

[Pragmatist]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Just so it is understood.Here in the US our taxes do pay for heathcare.It goes by your income.If you have nothing then you get a medicaid card.We don't have poor people walking around without healthcare.Its those of us who work that are paying and many because of the cost of living choose to go without healthcare.
My employer does pay a portion of mine which is great because I only pay
around 140.oo a month for a family plan my share.I get to choose my md and
can go out of network if I want.I can even submit a new md to my plan and if the
md approves it will pay him as well.So actually things aren't that bad here.
However I don't want higher taxes and cost of living.Canada is expensive to live.
My friend had to pay twice as much due to taxes and dollar amount for books that she used for a class than I did.

This is true. And Medicare covers people 65 and older. So actually my tax dollars are already paying for many people's poor lifestyle choices. Just not everyone's.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

This is true. And Medicare covers people 65 and older. So actually my tax dollars are already paying for many people's poor lifestyle choices. Just not everyone's.

Yeah I still pay for my own

[Scott Hutchinson]

So if I was to visit Canada and I got fataly ILL could I treated at a hospitable for free ,even though I have citizenship from another country ?

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

So if I was to visit Canada and I got fataly ILL could I treated at a hospitable for free ,even though I have citizenship from another country ?

haha they would probably take you to the nearest border and drop you over the line.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by TRIPLE E

I know of a lady never smoked a day in her life but has lung cancer due to the working environment and second hand smoke from smokers. Nothing to do with poor lifestyle choices!

I thank God He has blessed us with such a wonderful country and healthcare system.It has its flaws but the pros sure outweigh the cons.

All I can say is Amen!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Just so it is understood.Here in the US our taxes do pay for heathcare.It goes by your income.If you have nothing then you get a medicaid card.We don't have poor people walking around without healthcare.Its those of us who work that are paying and many because of the cost of living choose to go without healthcare.
My employer does pay a portion of mine which is great because I only pay
around 140.oo a month for a family plan my share.I get to choose my md and
can go out of network if I want.I can even submit a new md to my plan and if the
md approves it will pay him as well.So actually things aren't that bad here.
However I don't want higher taxes and cost of living.Canada is expensive to live.
My friend had to pay twice as much due to taxes and dollar amount for books that she used for a class than I did.

The thing is you have a huge majority of the 50 Million Americans who don't have, or don't have adequate medical insurance.

That is the sad reality.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

There are no studies that have shown conclusively that second hand smoking causes cancer.

You sound like a lobbyist for one of those big American Corporations!

There are numerous studies that show second hand smoke is bad for you!

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ron

You sound like a lobbyist for one of those big American Corporations!

There are numerous studies that show second hand smoke is bad for you!

Actually I'm a practicing respiratory therapist who reads and understand medical studies and the scientific method.