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Old 11-14-2015, 04:26 PM
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I'm surprised you didn't understand my posts, you of all people have gain my respect by me paying attention to your words. I'm sorry that I could not convey mine well enough to help you understand me. The Eastern Roman churches made up 20% of the population during the beginning of the 20th century, and now they make up only 2% of the Middle Eastern population. So, does that mean the Muslims waited until 1400 years later to start killing their Orthodox Christian neighbors?
At one time it was much larger than 20%

Despite what Islam says, Muhammad and his merry band of Muslims, slaughtered Christians and Jews across the middle east and those they did not slaughter they imposed a special tax on for the privilege of not being killed instead of converting.

Every time things dont go right, Muslims blame Christians. And its not just the Middle East. Nor did it start with the Armenians.

Its happening now in Indonesia too.
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:37 PM
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I don't believe most muslims can be converted. Again, not because God isn't able, but because they reject Him.

And no, I don't believe we should demolish mosques, deport all muslims or ban their religion.

I DO believe we should deport any muslim person or cleric who supports isis or other terror groups, whether by words, actions or money. I DO believe any mosque with ties to terror should be shut down. And I DO believe we should shut down the borders and refuse to accept any muslim "refugees" from Syria, Iraq or any other country.
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Not that God can't, but God won't force Himself, and muslims don't want to be saved or converted.

Your atheists would say God isn't or God can't.

God can, but He will NOT force anyone to be saved if they don't want to be.
Sorry, but the above won't wash because that isn't what you first offered me. You posted that preaching to them, behaving like Christ to them would get your head cut off as you smiled, and that anyone who believed that they could be offered Christ is believing in a happily ever after fairy tale?

Is the Bible, the book of Acts, and the Epistles of Paul, so foreign to us now where they speak of being under hard persecution by the Judeans? Where Paul was stoned and then dragged out of the city? What about missionaries who have gone to not only the Middle East, but communist countries secretly to preach the Gospel to those behind the once Iron Curtain? People who have gone into jungles, of the Amazon, India, and China, facing unbelievable peril.

Next time you all have a problem wondering how the Germans swooned under the Nationalist Socialist Party and were able to be involved in Kristallnacht. Just know this, it didn't happen over night, Europeans were primed for it, they were taught about it, Shakespeare wrote a play about it, and the Nazis did it.

The Lord Jesus Christ protect innocent Muslims during this time that we are living in, and may the offending ones be brought to justice. But the Lord Jesus have mercy on us and what we say. I know I have said somethings which I would like to take back. But 2020 hindsight doesn't win the game, it is only filled with regret.

It would be awful to find out that something I wrote or said motivated someone to do something horrible to anyone of another religion. The Punjabi Balbir Singh Sodhi was murdered 4 days after 9/11, because of what happened to the World Trade Center. As you know, Sikhs are the farthest thing from a Muslim. Yet, murderous ignorance never investigates before it assinates. Sad, but are we any different from Radical Islam, when we don't want to offer them the only thing in this world that conquers evil, which is Jesus Christ? But instead want someone else to go over THERE, and take some heads?
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Muslims are anti-Christs. Fact. John identifies those that do not believe in the Son as anti Christs

However many Muslims are converting. Many more probably would if not for fear of being killed for becoming a Christian
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At one time it was much larger than 20%

Despite what Islam says, Muhammad and his merry band of Muslims, slaughtered Christians and Jews across the middle east and those they did not slaughter they imposed a special tax on for the privilege of not being killed instead of converting.

Every time things don't go right, Muslims blame Christians. And its not just the Middle East. Nor did it start with the Armenians.

Its happening now in Indonesia too.
I thought every time things don't go right Muslims blame the Jews and Israel? The Armenians were more on the level of an ethnic cleansing, then their religion.

No one knows or speaks about the persecution of Rohingya people by the Buddhists. Ethiopia has persecuted their Muslim population. Yet, that is what happens when the majority believes one thing, and the minority believes another.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe we should outlaw a religion, and exterminate a religion's people.
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Muslims are anti-Christs. Fact. John identifies those that do not believe in the Son as anti Christs
Also the Rabbinical Jews.

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However many Muslims are converting. Many more probably would if not for fear of being killed for becoming a Christian
Therefore we must pray that they do it out of love for Christ, and not fear of getting shot by an Anti-Muslim. Two wrongs never make a right.
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Sorry, but the above won't wash because that isn't what you first offered me. You posted that preaching to them, behaving like Christ to them would get your head cut off as you smiled, and that anyone who believed that they could be offered Christ is believing in a happily ever after fairy tale?
IMO it does. The muslims would reject God and any attempt by a Christian to convert them would be met with death. So yes, it is a fairy tale to believe they would convert.
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IMO it does. The muslims would reject God and any attempt by a Christian to convert them would be met with death. So yes, it is a fairy tale to believe they would convert.
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Jonathan Edwards claimed he felt the Lord impress on him there would be such a Christian revival in the world that it would dissolve the Muslim religion by conversions.
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The Almost Adventures of N David and the Apostle Paul

Paul: So, N David do you want to go with me into the Temple area?

N David: What?! Are you kidding me, those Judeans will kill us while we smile.

Paul: N David, you know something, how about going over to Athens? We can preach to everyone on the Areopagus?

N David: Wha..what!?! They are Goyeem! Are you kidding me! Those Greeks will kills us while we smile.

N Davd: Paul? You are living in a fantasy world if you think Judeans and Greeks will convert. IMO The Judeans and Greeks would reject God and any attempt by us Christian to convert them will be met with death. Paul! snap out of it you are living in Mythology!
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