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Old 12-10-2007, 03:46 AM
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I've heard legalists used the weaker brother principle for supporting documentaton to enforce subjective standards. In many cases the "weaker" brethern is themselves. In many cases the legalists are the only ones offended.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:56 AM
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I thought I was the only one whose posts were grossly misinterpreted.

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You are about as far off base as anyone who has ever posted on AFF. You are making Pastor Tribble look like a man with Godly Good Sense!

I was messing with you on Thad's Tab, but I am dead serious here. You are a danger to any young believers on this board who are embracing Apostolic Doctrine! You should be watched very closely by any pastor who has folks posting here.

It is not surprising that you think the infilling of the Holy Ghost is not important to our salvation or our subsequent walk with the Lord Jesus. Based on what I have read in your posts, the Holy Ghost has no purpose in our lives at all.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:56 PM
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Thinking a little more about about this I need to qualify the "excellent" remark because I do think that God will speak to us as individuals about things that may or not be allowable for us personally.

There is the general will of God which is revealed through Scripture, but ......
  1. the way our conscience has been shaped (different factors involved in that) and

  2. the fact that we are admonished to be careful to "walk in the Spirit" making our relationship and walk with Him of a very personal nature
..... is going to mean that some of the things God speaks to me about and demands of me may be different than for someone else.

I know the voice of God when I hear it, and I know that He has spoken to me about some things that are not allowable for me personally. I might not ever put that conviction on someone else, but it is binding for me.
Thank you, Aunt Felicity (in Coon's recent absence I will adopt you for a season) for saying well what I said in my usual off the cuff and uncouth way.

I do believe that the Holy Ghost has led me to forsake some things that are in no way a sin because even though they are not a sin they are obstacles to my relationship to Him! I am flesh and as such have been given the Holy Ghost not only for the purposes outlined by StaySharp but also to lead me and to guide me in the ways of righteousness for His name's sake; to empower me to be an overcomer in this life and ultimately to be resurrected or raptured at the time of His appearing!

Thanks again!
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:57 PM
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I have no problem with that. God does speak to us, but when it comes to sin, sin that will send your soul to hell, that is in the bible. Violating ones own conscience can have adverse affects relationally, culturally, spiritually, etc. But I'm talking about imposing your conviction on someone else that is not listed in the bible and tell people there going to hell.

I agree with you that we should listen to the voice of the Lord, but when that voice we hear is not in agreement with the word, we are hearing the wrong voice.
Your clarification helps, but that is NOT what you said in the post to which I responded.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:26 PM
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Thank you, Aunt Felicity (in Coon's recent absence I will adopt you for a season) for saying well what I said in my usual off the cuff and uncouth way.

I do believe that the Holy Ghost has led me to forsake some things that are in no way a sin because even though they are not a sin they are obstacles to my relationship to Him! I am flesh and as such have been given the Holy Ghost not only for the purposes outlined by StaySharp but also to lead me and to guide me in the ways of righteousness for His name's sake; to empower me to be an overcomer in this life and ultimately to be resurrected or raptured at the time of His appearing!

Thanks again!
Thank you sir!

If the Holy Ghost has convicted us of certain things and we ignore that conviction then disobedience - if not those "things" themselves (although the things themselves can also become a hindrance) - definitely becomes a weight and a hindrance and an obstacle that affects our conscience and our relationship with God.
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