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View Poll Results: Do you affirm these beliefs?
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or

There's only one person on the NO side that kinda surprised me a little at first. Not gonna say who it is, though.
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Those that believe that every sinner must repent of their sins.
It is written, except you repent you will perish.
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That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
It is written to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. It is the correct way to baptize a believer in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but it's not the only biblical mode of water baptism. Before you start shooting.....John baptized with water, but some of his disciples where baptized again calling on the name of the Lord.
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That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith
with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
It is written that Peter used the evidence of speaking in tongues to determine that the Gentiles had received the Holy Ghost,
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The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
It is written that without following peace with all men and holiness we won't see the Lord.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:59 PM
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There's only one person on the NO side that kinda surprised me a little at first. Not gonna say who it is, though.
I was surprised that Timmy voted no too!
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I was surprised that Timmy voted no too!
That here is funny!
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:27 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or

Y'all ain't right!
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:28 PM
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The only issue I have with your post her Pel, is that those with John didn't know who Jesus was at that time, so how could they believe on Him? Their belief would have been put in a future Savior.

Also, we cannot go beyond the plainly stated scripture that Sam posted.

Where there is a testament, there has to be the death of the testator because a testament is in force after the death of the testator.


Until the death of Christ, the new covenant had NO LEGAL bite. If anyone was "saved" prior to His death and blood offering, then it was either through the old covenant, or Jesus simply worked outside of the scope we understand. But the latter would have been an exception, and not the rule.
Do you really know Who Jesus is? I mean you; and do you really know Who He is, even today? At least some of those with John would have known Jesus as the carpenter's son. Others would have known Him by reputation or from casually passing by or growing up near by.

Even John, though he must have known Jesus of Nazareth for his entire life didn't really recognize Jesus for Who He was until God showed it to him. And then John appears to have doubted while in prison. My point here is how can we draw a line that tells us who knows enough about the Savior to be saved? The thief on the cross knew that the man next to him was dying - yet he had at least a hope that this man (Jesus) might simply "remember" the thief later. He hardly had a Christology worked out - but he had a hope, and he was (is? will be?) saved.

I agree with you about the plain meaning of Scripture - just consider Mark 1:4; Luke 1:77 and Luke 3:3. Scripture plainly declares that John's baptism was a baptism unto repentance "for the remission of sins."

If Acts 2:38 means "for the remission of sins," why doesn't Mark 1:4; Luke 1:77 and Luke 3:3?

Hebrews 9:16-17 must be seen in the light of Revelation 13:8. The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. The passage in Hebrews also speaks of "men" who live and die. Jesus was a man Who lived and died and Hebrews' argument about the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice is valid.

However, God accounted the effects of the Lamb's sacrifice as being effectual even before the foundation of the world! See Matthew 25:34; Ephesians 1:4; Hebrews 11:6 and Revelation 17:8.
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That is the truth these folks have rewritten their history.
True the so-called PCI was that folks were saved at REPENTANCE not just accepting Christ.
However they fervently preached Acts 2:38 as the ONLY way to be baptized and baptized Trinitarians everywhere. A listener would have been hard pressed to have told the difference between them an myself.
And yet in the part of our history that hasn't been "rewritten" we find those same people that cannot be told apart from you by their preaching, being forced out of their pulpits, out of their Bible colleges, out of the organizations that they had fellowshiped in all of their lives. Why?

Why was Conqueror's Bible College forced to close? I went to Bible school with a couple of guys that had to leave there when they closed down. Why was that school so ostracized if their preaching was no different than yours? For that matter, I was forbidden to attend CLC because "that Kenneth Haney has a real problem with compromise...!" How could that be said if Haney's preaching, and his father's preaching was indistinguishable from yours?
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:33 PM
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Dan:

As you know, I'm not a great proponent of affirmation, but I do affirm this apostolic faith statement.
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I was surprised that Timmy voted no too!
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