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Old 05-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:48 AM
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Some things I would not say on this forum but ladies need strong UNDERSTANDING husbands... How can some be kind to everybody in church and be so hurtful to the one that loves them the most? It happens...I know I counsel lots of women. There is an unheard cry in our mists...
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:49 AM
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Chan, as literal and factual as you are, I am surprised that you have not explored the origins of the God-given authority of preachers in the here and now... anyone can claim they were given that authority and may or may not have followers, but that does not prove that they were given this authority by God.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:51 AM
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Chan, as literal and factual as you are, I am surprised that you have not explored the origins of the God-given authority of preachers in the here and now... anyone can claim they were given that authority and may or may not have followers, but that does not prove that they were given this authority by God.
It doesn't matter Brad. If we go to the church we are to assume that they are of God....throw a bunch of big words in there, mix in some vile wicked and worldly philosophy talk and that is pretty much how he will respond
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:53 AM
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Chan, as literal and factual as you are, I am surprised that you have not explored the origins of the God-given authority of preachers in the here and now... anyone can claim they were given that authority and may or may not have followers, but that does not prove that they were given this authority by God.
Having the authority isn't dependent on whether someone claims it. Authority originates with God alone. It is God alone who gets to decide what local church to put you in and, consequently, what leadership to put you under.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:54 AM
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It doesn't matter Brad. If we go to the church we are to assume that they are of God....throw a bunch of big words in there, mix in some vile wicked and worldly philosophy talk and that is pretty much how he will respond
Correction: if we go to the church where God has specifically told us to go then we are to assume that the leadership is leadership God has placed over us.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:55 AM
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Having the authority isn't dependent on whether someone claims it. Authority originates with God alone. It is God alone who gets to decide what local church to put you in and, consequently, what leadership to put you under.
But using this logic, doesn't this mean that no one should change churches at any time without permission from their pastor, regardless of whether they believe the beliefs of said church are biblical?
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:55 AM
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Having the authority isn't dependent on whether someone claims it. Authority originates with God alone. It is God alone who gets to decide what local church to put you in and, consequently, what leadership to put you under.
What happens when it's Dad who puts junior in as "associate" pastor ... or "junior" pastor????
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:56 AM
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What happens when it's Dad who puts junior in as "associate" pastor ... or "junior" pastor????
If God didn't order it then it is not of God.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:56 AM
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