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Old 02-27-2007, 10:30 AM
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This coming from a someone who accused many within the movement of spiritual abortion ... we're here to opine not censor PP.
I accused a small, but vocal minority, and I stand by that statement. What does that have to do with this discussion?
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:38 AM
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I accused a small, but vocal minority, and I stand by that statement. What does that have to do with this discussion?
I say lets go down to the river and fish!
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:53 AM
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I accused a small, but vocal minority, and I stand by that statement. What does that have to do with this discussion?
Everything.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:59 AM
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In a captivating message at the 2007 BOTT, Jeff Arnold, a solid PAJCer, and a favorite preacher of mine, remarked that many within the movement have not moved beyond Acts 2:38 and Knowing the book.

He went as far to exhort the listeners that many in the movement don't really KNOW GOD.

One interesting quote from the message and I paraphrase is .....

"You are married to doctrine and have divorced youself from Deity."

What say ye of this message? I will post audio of the message later.

Have some made Acts 2:38 and standards THE MESSAGE ... while Jesus is sitting on the outside looking in????


Just asking a question ....
I've heard one of our preachers say much of the same thing....He said the Baptists are better Christians than some of us, because we focus too much on ACTS 2:28 and don't preach/teach enough on Christian living.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:17 AM
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ACTS 2:38 is not the truth,it is a truth that points us to the Great Fountain Of Truth,The Lord Jesus Christ.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:28 AM
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I've heard one of our preachers say much of the same thing....He said the Baptists are better Christians than some of us, because we focus too much on ACTS 2:28 and don't preach/teach enough on Christian living.
My point exactly. Amen. Some real preaching!!!!
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:29 AM
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My point exactly. Amen. Some real preaching!!!!
Right.

Anything that heaps institutional guilt on Apostolic people and causes them to feel inferior is awesome.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:34 AM
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No institutional guilt ... CS ... Pointing out a problem that is pervasive ... shoud we ignore it? ... not talk about ?... sweep it under a rug ?... because it would be deemed as blasphemy .....

Every church and pastor is different but .... many solid Apostolics are seeing red flags, CS.

My dad preached Acts 2:38 ... but his focus was relationship ... WHILE some would OTHERS would rather beat up folks with THE MESSAGE and point out how everyone else has it wrong....
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:37 AM
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No institutional guilt ... CS ... Pointing out a problem that is pervasive ... shoud we ignore it ... not talk about ... sweep under a rug ... because it would be deemed as blasphemy .....

Every church and pastor is different but .... many solid Apostolics are seeing red flags, CS.

My dad preached Acts 2:38 ... but his focus was relationship ... WHILE some would OTHERS would rather beat up folks with THE MESSAGE and point out how everyone else has it wrong....
I am glad there are so many who have been to enough of the thousands of APostolic churches in this country to be able to speak authoritatively about how pervasive the lack of teaching relationship is among us.

Among the men I fellowship, it is taught extensively.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:40 AM
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I am glad there are so many who have been to enough of the thousands of APostolic churches in this country to be able to speak authoritatively about how pervasive the lack of teaching relationship is among us.

Among the men I fellowship, it is taught extensively.
We've got eyes and ears ... and can process for ourselves ... and can opine.
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