I lifted this quote from one of the gay marriage threads. Removed author's name since I'm taking this a different direction than subject he was addressing..
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... think of how GOD intended marriage to be. Throughout Scripture marriage was a private contract arrangement between families and/or individuals. And as a result God tolerated various forms of marriage in His own Word:
Monogamous Marriage
Levirate Marriage
Polygamous Marriage
Cocubinage
Penal Marriage
War Brides
Servant Marriage
All forms of marriage listed above can be found throughout the Scriptures. And God tolerated them in the nation state of Israel.
Oh? God << tolerated >> these forms of marriage? In the above examples, several forms were not only tolerated, but PRESCRIBED by Yahweh God and His supposed mouthpiece, Moses.
1.Forced Marriage To Your Own Rapist, (hey rapist, pay the dad 50 shekels, and she's yours!)
2.Forced Marriage to the soldiers who conquered your people, (as long as girl is a virgin, so imagine the post-battle examinations.)
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.
Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. 18 But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately.
Deut 21:10-12
When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hand, and you take them captive, 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her and would take her for your wife, 12 then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails
I well realize how believers are able to mine cultural history's "proper context" in order to avoid their personal cognitive dissonance and to square it with the belief that God has to remain all-knowing, all-loving, all-powerful, always-good, and all that at the same time. Indeed, the context above is a Bronze Age culture that is never too concerned with the human rights of non-Hebrews, except when they were forced to be concerned due to the firepower of said enemies. Fact remains that in any other time where Yahweh God wanted to elevate, educate, or change cultural behavior in any other area of Jewish life, He was WELL able to get the point across, such as in killing the silly man who reached out to steady that teetering ark of the covenant, or that rascally rebel who picked up sticks on a Sabbath (death), or the youths who made fun of a prophet's bald head (42 bear-mauled youths.) Yes, I cherry-picked those examples, but why not--there's a whole orchard full to pick from.
Regarding Forced Marriage to One's Own Rapist, and the post battle Round-Up-The-Cuties-Warrior-Benefit, some human behaviors have no morally defensible context, at least if taught as proper habit, a social norm, or Divinely Prescribed statute. In this sense, most readers of Timmy Talk probably possess a moral compass superior to their own Yahweh God.
Anyhow, if gay marriage is so obnoxious, then it will be enjoying some very good past company with several of the above forms of marriage that were once prescribed by the Yahweh God.
I lifted this quote from one of the gay marriage threads. Removed author's name since I'm taking this a different direction than subject he was addressing..
Oh? God << tolerated >> these forms of marrigage? In the above examples, several forms were not only tolerated, but PRESCRIBED by Yahweh God and His supposed mouthpiece, Moses.
1.Forced Marriage To Your Own Rapist, (hey rapist, pay the dad 50 shekels, and she's yours!)
2.Forced Marriage to the soldiers who conquered your people, (as long as girl is a virgin, so imagine the post-battle examinations.)
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.
Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. 18 But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately.
Deut 21:10-12
When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hand, and you take them captive, 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and desire her and would take her for your wife, 12 then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and trim her nails
I well realize how believers are able to mine cultural history's "proper context" in order to avoid their personal cognitive dissonance and to square it with the belief that God has to remain all-knowing, all-loving, all-powerful, always-good, and all that at the same time. Indeed, the context above is a Bronze Age culture that is never too concerned with the human rights of non-Hebrews, except when they were forced to be concerned due to the firepower of said enemies. Fact remains that in any other time that Yahweh God wanted to elevate, educate, or change cultural behavior in any other area of Jewish life, He was WELL able to get the point across, such as in killing the silly man who reached out to steady that teetering ark of the covenant, or that rascally rebel who picked up sticks on a Sabbath (death), or the youths who made fun of a prophet's bald head (42 bear-mauled youths.) Yes, I cherry-picked those examples, but why not--there's a whole orchard full to pick from.
Regarding Forced Marriage of One's Own Rapist, and the post battle Round-Up-The-Cuties-Warrior-Benefit, some human behaviors have no morally defensible context, at least if taught as proper habit, a social norm, or Divinely Prescribed statute. In this sense, most readers of Timmy Talk probably possess a moral compass superior to their own Yahweh God.
Anyhow, if gay marriage is so obnoxious, then it will be enjoying some very good past company with several of the above forms of marriage that were once prescribed by the Yahweh God.
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