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Old 05-29-2007, 05:39 PM
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Good grief....how many licensed ministers would be dumb enough to say that in ear shot of someone that would use it as ammunition like this? Can you actually number and name those preachers?
I could, but I will not. Do you think I am making this up??
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You said it, and not me.
Are you admitting there is something wrong with us already? That we as a group are so weak already that you can't even turn on a TV without falling into sin?

What do you preachers and pastors do when you are in a hotel room with that backsliding device staring at you...being the weak person that you are?

Actually I DO think some are weak now and that is OUR fault. Some are weak, never even having a TV. TV is NOT the door I repeat. It's our hearts. Legislating "no TV" does not fix the heart problem or make us stronger. Many who don't have TVs might already NOT even have a consistant prayer life. They've just been following this man made rule for so long (and not necessarily a bad one) that they are used to not having a TV. BUT that does not make them strong or mean the open door of their heart is not properly secured against such things. And BTW in the REAL world much of the garbage that is on TV you might just see in your local city or on the job.
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Here is a victory report from the UPC couple who were on Wife Swap.

http://www.ninetyandnine.com/sblog/2...tories_28.html
VB, you need to read our board more.

Stephen Hoover is a member and we discussed this more than once.
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I could, but I will not. Do you think I am making this up??
Anyone that would be dumb enough to keep attempting to kick a football with Lucy assuring you that she will not move it this time....well...you get the point
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No you said that they want to justify watching ungodliness on TV...and you know this because...?!
Shows that preachers I personally know watch:


Despirate Housewives
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If any of the above is considered "Godly", then I would happily take back all that I have said.
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Charlie Brown, maybe the church should stop trying to woo Paris and Brittney wannabees, and instead try to be effective in changing the world, not becoming more like them.
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Shows that preachers I personally know watch:


Despirate Housewives
CSI (Miami, and all the other ones)
Seinfeild
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If any of the above is considered "Godly", then I would happily take back all that I have said.
Those preachers then might have a heart problem. Perhaps they are weak then. The solution is not to take their TVs away like punishing a little child.

I would also say those shows are probably symptomatic but having a TV is not symptomatic.
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Shows that preachers I personally know watch:


Despirate Housewives
CSI (Miami, and all the other ones)
Seinfeild
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If any of the above is considered "Godly", then I would happily take back all that I have said.
And you know these programs are ungodly because...?!
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Are you admitting there is something wrong with us already? That we as a group are so weak already that you can't even turn on a TV without falling into sin?

What do you preachers and pastors do when you are in a hotel room with that backsliding device staring at you...being the weak person that you are?

Actually I DO think some are weak now and that is OUR fault. Some are weak, never even having a TV. TV is NOT the door I repeat. It's our hearts. Legislating "no TV" does not fix the heart problem or make us stronger. Many who don't have TVs might already NOT even have a consistant prayer life. They've just been following this man made rule for so long (and not necessarily a bad one) that they are used to not having a TV. BUT that does not make them strong or mean the open door of their heart is not properly secured against such things. And BTW in the REAL world much of the garbage that is on TV you might just see in your local city or on the job.


So giving them a tv is going to add to their strength??
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Isn't all of this kinda old news?
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