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Old 10-03-2013, 01:37 PM
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Re: Boehner Caves On Debt Limit!!!!!

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we live in a republic where representatives rule based on the consent of the people. dems represent the will of the people. the will of the people was also expressed in 2012 when the whole election was about obamacare and romney lost. you are just being dishonest. the people have spoken and you don't want to accept it. so what are republicans accomplishing since there will be no compromise on obamacare?
57% of the people are against bummercare and want a one-year delay.
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A one-year delay makes sense, considering the chaos and utter flop the rollout has been.
the " utter flop" was because of overload from interested people.

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57% of the people are against bummercare and want a one-year delay.
if that were true why did obama win reelection when obummercare was the main issue in the election? face the facts junior.
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Old 10-03-2013, 01:58 PM
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Rand Paul: There’s no reason to raise the debt ceiling

“What’s going on is, interestingly, the Democrats are scaring people saying we might not pay [interest on the debt] because Republicans don’t want to raise the debt ceiling,” Paul said on CNN. “If you don’t raise the debt ceiling that means you won’t have a balanced budget, it doesn’t mean you wouldn’t pay your bills.”

Paul argued that the House has passed a bill, the Full Faith and Credit law, that mandates payments on debt interest, Social Security, Medicare and soldier’s salaries go out first. He said that if the debt ceiling is breached, other government function wouldn’t get financed, but that no default would occur.

“I’m for taking default completely off the table and for promising to the American people and the markets, to Wall Street, that we will always pay the interest on the debt as a priority,” he said. “You know how we do that? We bring in $250 billion in tax revenue every month. The debt payment is about $30 billion. We just promise that we’ll always pay it. “

“We should pay our interest and we shouldn’t scare the markets, so if I were in charge – I’ll say, absolutely we will never default,” Paul said. “I would pass a law saying that the first revenue every month has to go to pay the interest.”

http://thehill.com/video/senate/3262...#ixzz2ggsljc9I
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the " utter flop" was because of overload from interested people.
CA had less than a million looking at its exchange. LA didn't have a single person sign up on theirs. CT had only 120-something sign up. It wasn't just people signing up. It was people, like me, looking to see what it was about, what the rates were, etc. It's been an complete and utter enrollment FLOP.

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if that were true why did obama win reelection when obummercare was the main issue in the election?
1) People didn't like Romney. 2) the msm covered obumer on Benghazi and his record, but released a ton of negative press on Romney. 3) obumer's first term made people poorer and gave them benefits...people love freebies and will vote any moron like obumer who wants to keep giving freebies. And there are more reasons, but that's the basics, kid.
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If dems stay in charge, Detroit will be the nations future.
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the " utter flop" was because of overload from interested people.

if that were true why did obama win reelection when obummercare was the main issue in the election? face the facts junior.
Re-electing a President is not the same as saying you agree with 100% of his agenda, and that you are giving him a blank check. The majority of the people do not want Obamacare, and the Republican majority in the house are therefore duty bound to oppose it.
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we live in a republic where representatives rule based on the consent of the people. dems represent the will of the people. the will of the people was also expressed in 2012 when the whole election was about obamacare and romney lost. you are just being dishonest. the people have spoken and you don't want to accept it. so what are republicans accomplishing since there will be no compromise on obamacare?

You did not answer the question. The Dems do not represent the will of the people or they would have given the House of Representatives back to the Democrats in 2012. Romney losing is irrelevant to this argument. Congress makes the laws, not the President.
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if that were true why did obama win reelection when obummercare was the main issue in the election? face the facts junior.
I can answer for those of us who refused to follow Faux News and the MSM. Romney already had a similar healthcare plan in MA and he agreed with a lot of Obama's policies. All of that has already been discussed here during the primaries.

Those that didn't vote for ORomney did so because they didn't trust him. Why would we trust that he would defund Obamacare when he had the same healthcare plan implemented in MA? No one wants Democrat lite from the Republican Party. That's the point and not that people voted FOR Obama and Obamacare. They voted against ORomney.

I'm not sure the GOP Establishment has learned their lesson. You can see that in their vitriolic criticism for Senator Ted Cruz.
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if that were true why did obama win reelection when obummercare was the main issue in the election? face the facts junior.

Let me let you in on a little secret, DM! The reason Obumer won was he got votes from 58 states. 57 that he had visited and the other one that he had yet to visit. And by the way, this was taken from his own words..... 57 states. You and Obumer are two peas in a pod!

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Let me let you in on a little secret, DM! The reason Obumer won was he got votes from 58 states. 57 that he had visited and the other one that he had yet to visit. And by the way, this was taken from his own words..... 57 states. You and Obumer are two peas in a pod!

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