1ofthechosen's Daily Sermon Thread - Page 4

Truthseeker · #31 06-14-2018, 01:11 PM

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So let me get this straight you believe in verse 36-42 with the context being verse 37-39 that the righteous are left behind, and the wicked are taken? Did you ever read Genesis before? Did the wicked get taken or left behind? Did you ever read the parable of the Ten virgins? Or 2 Thessalonians?

I hope you said that backwards.

The wicked where taken. Who was left after the flood? The righteous! Who was left after destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah? The righteous!

But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:37..-‬39 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.24.37-39.KJv

" the flood came and TOOK them all away"

Truthseeker · #32 06-14-2018, 01:13 PM

Same applies to tares and the wheat, the tares are taken away and the wheat is left.

It was a good thing to be left behind.

Truthseeker · #33 06-14-2018, 01:15 PM

Where does 2 Thessalonians speak of the righteous taken and wicked left behind?

1ofthechosen · #34 06-14-2018, 01:24 PM

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For starters:

1. Mattew 24 has nothing to do with us today.

2. No where does it teach a warning for the church to be worried about being left behind as if thats a bad thing . In that text the righteous remain and the wicked are taken. It's a good thing to be left behind.

If this is your true belief tell me what this is called. So you believe in the establishment of a kingdom on the earth right? But what's the technical term for it

1ofthechosen · #35 06-14-2018, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

The wicked where taken. Who was left after the flood? The righteous! Who was left after destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah? The righteous!

But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:37..-‬39 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.24.37-39.KJv

" the flood came and TOOK them all away"

Yea but they had to be taken away.
Did Lot stay in Sodom? Did Noah stay there? The tares and the wheat were separated but it never said they stayed there either. They had to both be cropped then separated.

What is this belief called because whatever this is makes sense how people could be deceived after the true church is called out. They will believe they are the ones with the truth, and then the Khundalini spirit can reign. Do you go New Apostolic Reformation church?

Not 2Thessalonians the end of 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 specifically 15-18. Now in verse 17 it says "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.."

This word "up" comes from the Greek Word "harpazō". Which means "to seize, carry off by force, to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly, to snatch out or away." So where is the basis for your theory the righteous are left. Matter of fact Strong's says "pluck pull take". Just as the wheat and the tares shall be separated.

Truthseeker · #36 06-14-2018, 04:18 PM

Point being, he used Matt 24 out of context. Those taken were the wicked and those who were to remain was the righteous. Those left behind want the wicked.

1ofthechosen · #37 06-14-2018, 04:20 PM

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Point being, he used Matt 24 out of context. Those taken were the wicked and those who were to remain was the righteous. Those left behind want the wicked.

The text does not say that or allude to that that's why it specifically names Noah. The wicked remained and we're drowned, the righteous were caught away and saved in the Ark. Another times it uses Lot he was cuaght away and saved while Sodom was destroyed.

Truthseeker · #38 06-14-2018, 04:21 PM

Even in the parable of the tares and wheat, it's the tares that are gathered first, which happened at the end of the world (age).

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:30 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.13.30.KJV

Esaias · #39 06-14-2018, 04:23 PM

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Even in the parable of the tares and wheat, it's the tares that are gathered first, which happened at the end of the world (age).

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:30 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/mat.13.30.KJV

Yes, the tares are gathered into their neat denominational bundles, waiting for the burn, while the wheat is gathered into the Lord's storehouse.

Truthseeker · #40 06-14-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

The text does not say that or allude to that that's why it specifically names Noah. The wicked remained and we're drowned, the righteous were caught away and saved in the Ark. Another times it uses Lot he was cuaght away and saved while Sodom was destroyed.

Jesus specifically says the flood took them away! When its was all over Noah(righteous) and his family were left.