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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Did God command death for adultery and murder in the OT?
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Jesus didn't break the law, Jesus upheld the law by letting her go. She was caught in the very act. Meaning a man should of been present. Yet, no man was with her. Both were to be stoned by the hands of those who caught THEM. But no MAN was with her, therefore decision was void. According to the LAW.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Why and how did he put away Davids sin?
Did he break his rule by putting it away and NOT requiring Davids death?
Or would he call it undeserved mercy?
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Let's see, are you talking about his adultery? With his Uriah the Hittite wife? His manipulation to murder Uriah? David did pay for ll of that, one the child died, his kingdom was taken by Absalom. The prophet's words came to pass as judgement on David the King
2 Samuel 8-12.
2 Samuel 12:10-14 is the punishment for David's sin. While myth tellers like you, incorrectly gain their theology from nursery rhymes, the Bible paints a different picture. Adultery was dealt with by death sentence, or as Mary, it was a private bill of divorce. Even though Joseph could of sought death penalty. Because she had the FRUIT of adultery, pregnancy. In David's case the child dies, and David is punished by his own mouth. Yet, God instead of killing off the line of Messiah, punishes David another way. But still the LAW is honored.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Isnt that EXACTLY the wording of the song in question?
Why yes it is!
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Mike, no it is not. Jesus didn't break the LAW by His crucifixion. That is insane. It also proves you don't understand the Israelite/Judean system of lineage, law, and government.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
And even with that as I said early on he may have been speaking of some personal experience HE HAD concerning Jesus breaking the rules to rescue HIM. Remember he did not say to rescue US.
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He said? Guess what, he is wrong. Jesus didn't break rules to save anyone. It is more Charismatic crypto religious voodoo that they sing about. Jesus breaking laws, rules, He is an outlaw? Mike, you know no bounds to prove YOU are right about whatever YOU say or do. Pathetic.
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For all you know he could have meant breaking MENS rules to rescue him.
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Really? For all I know? Mike, the guy is wrong, but what is worse you are more wrong for making up stuff to defend his wrongness.
Satan in spaceships is the least of your problems Hoss.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
An example might be:
A man comes to a Church that teaches its a sin for a man to wear a beard or some other legalism. They teach him dont worry about reading Gods word the Pastor will tell you whatever you need to know. They teach him that he cannot have personal love and fellowship with Jesus APART FROM having a Pastor as a mediator. Jesus breaks the RULES OF MEN and rescues him from the legalism.
See?
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Mike, again with the stupid beard or not to beard foolishness. Mike, let it go already. There are people with and without beards who couldn't careless about your phobias, they both are living for Jesus Christ. RULES of Men? How about Revelation stating that we cannot add or take away? Does that give you license to come up with Satan in a flying saucer? How about private blanket ministry with a housewife? How about warning someone about a Hebrew word, that they may be in danger of blasphemy. Mike, you are no different than anyone else. Pot meet kettle, and the problem is that you think you are perfect and have need of nothing.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Thats just one example of what COULD BE the meaning.
But some would automatically be surmising something evil.
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Mike, this wasn't just me Hoss. This was other posters drawing the same conclusion. Do yourself a favor, it is not all about you. Sorry, but it is just not.
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A Pastor and a Church family to teach me that Jesus came and resurrected the dead and took the saints back with him to Heaven in 70ad?
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Mike, we don't believe in a rapture in 70 AD. But I have told you this before. But what do you believe? Satan is a alien in a space ship (so everyone will accept him) he comes to earth having great wrath, but tells earth's inhabitants to take him to their leader? Adding to the word mean anything to you pal?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Leaving us with nothing relevant to the 1st century Christians?
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Mike, the flip side of your bad logic posted above is, that no one for 2,000 years and counting had any thing relevant to them. Forget leaving, boy, they had nothing for them to understand. Because 3/4s of the scroll wasn't relevant for the time it was written to. He who has wisdom figure out the number of the beast? Mike, with your spaceman Satan logic, that WASN'T WRITTEN to anyone living 2,000 years ago!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Just a historic statement that Jesus came like a thief and took all the Christians several thousand years ago?
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Mike, I don't believe that, no one I know believes that. But, instead of historic, you paint that the book was blank unintelligible pages. Which no one living at the time of its writings could possibly understand. Therefore asking anyone to have wisdom to figure out the beast number name wasn't for 2,000 years and counting? Mike, you have the bigger problem.
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The Jehovah Witnesses come FAR CLOSER in their "eschatology". They say Jesus took the saints in 1914 making them far closer to the truth than modern day preterism.
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Mike, are you on your fith wine cooler about now? Mike, the Gee Haw witness don't believe Jesus took anyone anywhere in 1914? You are a religious odd ball
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
It would be interesting to see you post songs here. We could examine them and talk about the singers and the songs.
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I have, and you liked them. Anything else?