Removing Zionism From the Chruch

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Is Benjamin Netanyahu a Talmudic, Torahic, or secular Jew?

He's a politician.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sister, please reread your post below...



Did you read the above?

You didn't post Is it a sin for the church to be allies with Israel? You posted is it sin for the United States to be allied with Israel. Whether this country is aligned with or without the modern secular state of Israel means nothing to the Church. The United States has far more issues than its support of Israel. Same gender marriage, pornography being offered to children at an alarming rate over the Internet. Hollywood's hatred of Christianity, the music industries hatred towards Christianity. The left's infatuation with Islam, and this is just the beginning. Sister, we are the revival, we are the ones who Jesus has to work through. You looking for revival? It is in your hands. It doesn't matter if just the few people who are posting in this forum are the only Apostolics left in this counrty. If America is totally filled with Kabbalist Rabbis performing Blood libel it would never stop revival. I think sometimes we are more concerned with finding the end time boogie man than keeping our noses to the grindstone and winning souls.

Revival isn't a carrot on a stick that we need to constantly chase over the dead bodies of eschatological would-be Antichrists.

Same gender marriage, pornography being offered to children at an alarming rate over the Internet. Hollywood's hatred of Christianity, the music industries hatred towards Christianity. The left's infatuation with Islam

This attack is coming from this Luciferian Masonic Cabal. And sadly they have infiltrated almost all of our so called reformed protestant churches. They own Hollywood and music entertainment. They own the federal reserve system and our politicians. Your right in that the happenings in the Middle East need to be put in perspective. Apostolic Americans need to be aware of this ideology and how it affects our families.

My purpose for posting is simple. Warn people of this deception in our churches. Let prayer warriors know where to direct their prayers. Start a discussion on how this impacts Apostolicism and our eschatology. Your right I am sick of this boogeyman Antichrists, and the fear of gloom and doom of the end times prophecies. We have been in the end times since the inception of the new covenant church.

I did not come to God out of fear of the world ending, but I was drawn by his Love and Mercy.The church's mission is to spread the good news of the gospel that Kingdom of God is at hand. And to your point, we must keep that as our focus.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Originalist

So the first two gatherings were ok in spite of the people who were uprooted? But your comments shed light on the real issue,.....,whether or not a third regathering is foretold. If it is not, then I still think Israel is the most natural ally we have in that region.

Having a democracy over there in Israel with none other around there is good for us. otherwise there'd be no democracy there.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by CalledOut238

Though you are right about some Judiacs not wanting an occupied Israel. Be careful not to fall for the Left/Right paradigm of Judaism. Karaite Judaism holds more weight on the Tanakh or Torah, but does incorporate the Talmud. Anyone using the Talmud or Kabbalah needs to called out for promoting the spirit of Anti Christ.

Just so I will not be deemed a Anti Semite. The Church was founded by Hebrews, and was only Hebrews for the first three and half years. The apostles traveled across the then known world seeking the lost sheep of Israel to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. They were considered as another Hebrew sect called the Nazarenes. They are my apostolic forefathers who were murdered by the Romans and Edomite Jews. Study and you will find Caiaphas was an Edomite Pharisee. This has been one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated. Fox's Book of Martyrs estimates between 60-70 million people have been murdered under Christian persecution. Either by the Crypto Jew Jesuit Roman Catholics or Judaic Edomites.

Selah

I agree Kabbalah is utterly wicked and ANYONE who trusts in it is antichrist. definitely.

[CalledOut238]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I'm glad your journey has led you out of the love affair many Christians have with Jewishness and unconditional approval of Israel. However, I see you now "overcorrecting", which seems to be common with people like you. Instead of just no longer viewing your Biblical worldview through Israelocentric lenses, you become anti-Israel. That does not mean you are against people who are ethnic Jews, I understand that. But why not just embrace neutrality, as our Founders admonished us? Trying to undermine and discredit the legitimacy of the Jewish State is the other side of the same coin, just as bad as fawning all over the Jews IMO.


Now before you start again with the Jewish Media Hegelian Dialectic script, please remember I am the one that has been accused of being a Nazi and holocaust denier.

I can separate Hebrew Israel of old and Zionism of today. I do appreciate your concern of being obsessiveness and its negativity ramifications. I understand that you are coming from a geopolitical perspective. My focus is on Talmudic Judaism, Catholicism, Islam, Hindu and Protestantism linkage to the Masonic Cabal.

When Jesus name baptism was dismissed by the Assemblies and Churches of God leadership those brethren were deemed heretical. I am only one out of many who our Savior is calling for us to cleanse the alter. Like you; when your questions become uncomfortable, it easier for some just to label you. I do not hate Israel or anyone, but a watchman's duty is to sound the alarm.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Having a democracy over there in Israel with none other around there is good for us. otherwise there'd be no democracy there.

What is a "democracy", and why is having a democracy in the mid east a good thing for us? We deal with every form of government on earth. As long as they make us money and advance our interests in the local area we have never had an issue with any particular type of government. In fact, judging from history, we tend to prefer despots and tyrants to popular assemblies.

(By 'we' I mean the US government.)

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Having a democracy over there in Israel with none other around there is good for us. otherwise there'd be no democracy there.

That kinda makes it sound like we trust in systems of government more than the God who sets a table before us in the presence of our enemies....

If GOD be for us it doesn't matter WHAT system of government is over there.

I think we are getting our minds off the fact that God is who builds up kings and tears them down and we shouldn't hold our peace because we see them as the lesser evil.

If evil is being committed we should speak against it without fear or favor.

Do you realize that they have some of the same policies and mindsets the Nazis had?

Racial purity is racism and Nazism but for them it's acceptable.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

That kinda makes it sound like we trust in systems of government more than the God who sets a table before us in the presence of our enemies....

If GOD be for us it doesn't matter WHAT system of government is over there.

I think we are getting our minds off the fact that God is who builds up kings and tears them down and we shouldn't hold our peace because we see them as the lesser evil.

If evil is being committed we should speak against it without fear or favor.

Do you realize that they have some of the same policies and mindsets the Nazis had?

Racial purity is racism and Nazism but for them it's acceptable.

Is the emboldened statement always true? If I teach my daughters that it is probably in their best interests to marry young men of northern or western European descent, does that make me a Nazi?

Is it Naziism for European nations. or for the Jewish State to want to remain racially homogenous?

[Evang.Benincasa]

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have seen this video. What the elite Jews did to their own in WW2 is incredible. The story that is hidden away.