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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen
I see the creative power of the Logos. But you are saying you believe in a actual pre existant divine son? I agree with somethings you said, but on this I don't. I can see that God can be visible and invisible, but the title of son I can't see until the fullness of time came.
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The title "son of God" is applied to Jesus because He was begotten by a miracle of the Holy Ghost (
Luke 1:35), and also because of His role as Messiah and heir to the throne of David (
Psalm 2:7). So a "pre existent son" doesn't really make sense.
But He who is the Son, pre existed as the Word (which was God, and later became flesh).
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I will even go with what Michael said about God being visible and invisible, but the Son is a title of relationship. Which I don't see Him being born at any point, until Bethelehams manger. Nor begotten.
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I don't know brother Michael claims a begotten Son prior to Bethlehem, but rather the Word as the manifest presence of God which became flesh as the Son? Perhaps he can clarify?