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04-24-2017, 10:04 AM
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The Feminization of the Modern Church
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The full message is at this LINK.
The full message from the men's conference he mentioned in the youtube clip is at this LINK. I haven't listened to any of that message.
*Disclaimer: I don't know this minister, who he is or what he believes. I found this video while browsing FB and thought it was interesting what he had to say. Posting the video doesn't mean I agree with his doctrine, etc.
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04-24-2017, 03:48 PM
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
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Originally Posted by n david
Agree/disagree?
The full message is at this LINK.
The full message from the men's conference he mentioned in the youtube clip is at this LINK. I haven't listened to any of that message.
*Disclaimer: I don't know this minister, who he is or what he believes. I found this video while browsing FB and thought it was interesting what he had to say. Posting the video doesn't mean I agree with his doctrine, etc.
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04-24-2017, 03:53 PM
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Covenant Apostolic
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
well now that Bro E. has given a thumbs up, I have to see it.
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04-24-2017, 04:45 PM
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Covenant Apostolic
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
I'm not sure this applies to apostolic men so much, it applies more to the seeker sensitive, emergent churches.
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04-24-2017, 05:00 PM
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-24-2017, 07:24 PM
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
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Originally Posted by Amanah
I'm not sure this applies to apostolic men so much, it applies more to the seeker sensitive, emergent churches.
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It's across the board, and applies to Western Civilization.
But, not much is going to change until $$$$ is taken out of the equation. Religion is big business, and plenty of people out there looking to make lots of moolah from it. And women are a prime source of consumer dollars, so the feminine-oriented marketing will continue. Women, and effeminaised males, spend money more on "felt needs" more than traditinal men tend to.
It's all about easy incomes, plus a generation or two of males brought up in a generally feminist society who don't even know which bathroom to use anymore makes for a large target market to bilk money from.
Unfortunately for them, less of their target market has disposable income. As the crunch continues, you will eventually see a market shift towards whoever has money to spend. Its already happening in some areas, in fact.
Meanwhile, serious people don't got time for dat, and will continue living and being what God called them to be. When the house of cards comes down, the old skool will just carry on, like always, building the next civilization out of the ashes of yet another failed, effeminized Empire.
Last edited by Esaias; 04-24-2017 at 07:29 PM.
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04-25-2017, 08:34 AM
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
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Originally Posted by Esaias
It's across the board, and applies to Western Civilization.
But, not much is going to change until $$$$ is taken out of the equation. Religion is big business, and plenty of people out there looking to make lots of moolah from it. And women are a prime source of consumer dollars, so the feminine-oriented marketing will continue. Women, and effeminaised males, spend money more on "felt needs" more than traditinal men tend to.
It's all about easy incomes, plus a generation or two of males brought up in a generally feminist society who don't even know which bathroom to use anymore makes for a large target market to bilk money from.
Unfortunately for them, less of their target market has disposable income. As the crunch continues, you will eventually see a market shift towards whoever has money to spend. Its already happening in some areas, in fact.
Meanwhile, serious people don't got time for dat, and will continue living and being what God called them to be. When the house of cards comes down, the old skool will just carry on, like always, building the next civilization out of the ashes of yet another failed, effeminized Empire.
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Agree.
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04-25-2017, 05:15 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
Just listened to what is on here AFF sounds like a
Comedy of Sister Cantaloupe ....
Well...excuse me just came from the backlands of an interior state where a little women held the work together for years.... today there is a man pastor...and no it was not dainty...Service for hours in the cold wind.... sand blowing everywhere but watched a host of the redeemed sing the songs of Zion....
If you could call an old fat missionary dainty...I was probably the most dainty thing there for they had brought me a special "confortable" chair from somewhere...the rest had little plastic chairs or backless rough bench’s.... their church had no roof...no floors...(just dirt) no bathroom...far from dainty.... Yet a little Brazilian woman blazed the trail....
Sorry for sound grouchy.... that guy hit a wrong nerve.... I just spent a week with little Sister Rose.... In the end she won her husband to the Lord. He now is the pastor and overseer of several churches.... His folks were and are Branhamites of all things.... she went through hell and high water to do a work for God.... after her husband became a christian his folks tried in every way to change him over to a Branhamite...I made trip after trip to these backlands in the early years of this work in Bahia just to try to help them and help him understand the difference in WB doctrine and what we preach....
Last night in the closing prayer I saw Pastor Eddy and Sister Rose holding hands praying for their people.... and tears ran down my cheeks…thinking of the long struggle they had many years…Thank God the family is together. I know a preacher that left his wife the other day here in Brazil to find “his rib".
Not by any means saying that guy is that but when people have to belittle others that is NOT the way Jesus did things....
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04-25-2017, 06:09 PM
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Just listened to what is on here AFF sounds like a
Comedy of Sister Cantaloupe ....
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Not by any means saying that guy is that but when people have to belittle others that is NOT the way Jesus did things....
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Comedy of Sister Cantaloupe?
Are you belittling Brazilian catholic traditions or literature or something?
Who is Sister Cantaloupe, Brazil's Dante?
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04-25-2017, 06:23 PM
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Re: The Feminization of the Modern Church
I believe it's about whoever will be obedient to Him and get the job done. Make or female.
Women can have ungodly spirits and so can men. It's our carnal fleshly nature that we have to keep subjected to Christ through the renewing of our minds.
I have no problem with the idea of having a woman pastor. If she has the spirit of Christ then she is a new and living creature and she may be female but in God's eyes she is still a Son.
I haven't watched the video yet and I'm not going to.
Yes, feminisation has crept into the church. Im not saying women are evil. In my family on both my mom and dad's side it's a matrriarchy and it's pretty dysfunctional. The women have learned how to look Pentecostal and act Pentecostal and it's a bunch of hypocrisy and carnality. The husband's don't lead in ANYTHING and God help you if you say something they don't agree with or what goes against their tradition. Even when shown the word of God, their traditions outrank that.
It's not women that's the problem, it's ungodly women. Now that's just MY family and that doesn't represent everybody. They married husband's they could control and growing up they tried to manipulate and control me but I wouldn't have any of it and I saw time and time again where they would hide behind their husbands and disrespect and defy the man of God in their lives.
I don't just dismiss a woman because she's a woman and I don't just blindly follow a man because he is a man and neither do I automatically think a man is more qualified than a woman. I listen to God and examine the attitude and fruits.
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