Looking for info about Mark Hanby or Verbal Bean?

[deacon blues]

My dad and Mark Hanby are close to the same age. My dad was a new Christian when he met Mark back in the early to mid 60s. His father S. R. Hanby had pioneered and pastored many churches in the central Ohio area and had been long time friends with my grandfather, H. E. Dyer, so when Mark came through our area he preached a lot for my grandfather. My dad really grew fond of Mark and so when I was born in 1966 he named me after him. I remember him preaching once when I was a kid back in 1976. He and Kenneth Phillips both came and preached dedication services and a Sunday School Conference our church was hosting. It was the only time heard him preach. We were all very excited when some of our very own, Phillps and Hanby, were on TV. We always made sure to watch their programs.

[tv1a]

My mothership comment was for effect. One of the common misconceptions is bad things happen to people who leave the mothership. I've heard stories about MH. That doesn't change my opinion of him. There isn't a lot of his material on the internet. What little I've heard is Biblically sound. I'm more about the message than the messenger. I would like to hear more of MH and less about him.

[Sister Alvear]

MH was a good preacher...I remember his first wife Gloria....I worked with Mark's sister Ruth in Brazil. Lots of things happened....however I choose to remember the good....VB was an awesome man of God in my opinion. He saw far beyond his day...He certainly was a man of prayer.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

He fell because he's a fallen human being, just like you and me.

and we all can fall also if we are not careful

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

CJ - are you blaming the "mothership"?

NO, not at all, simply stating a fact, the UPC did not have strong leadership or requirements of education or knowledge for its up and coming young ministers. Simple fact, leadership training, theological training of much depth was non-existant in the UPC, and there was not enough Holy Spirit present to lead us into ALL truth. Excitement and spiritual enthusiasm will sustain a young Christian, but it is not enough, we must go on to maturity. This process is many times generational. Young men like Mark got out beyond their ability by their charisma, and then they faltered, lost faith, fell into sin and shipwrecked. God is still calling, one day he will hear again.

[HolyFire]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I don't think the goal should ever be to "attain" certain heights or depths. It should solely be to seek after Christ. The by product of a close relationship w Him is the fruit of the Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit. Seeking God with any other motive is wrong.

My goal is to be closer to Jesus Christ, 1st and foremost. However, I feel it will lead me to some deep spiritual water and I am looking at the lives of other men and women who have been there (Carrie Eastridge being another).

I'm fixated on personal holiness (the plumb line, not the clothesline) and the nearness of His presence - think Moses on the mountain with God. He could abide in the weighty glory of God when the others ran scared due to the sin in their heart. I want to be that close (and bring others with me), so close that others can't help but notice (how easy is it to witness then?). This is what I am looking at. All the other stuff follows.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Wouldn't Verbal Bean call my bloodline the result of "an abombination"-- especially if I or my ancestors were to go up to the altar and began to dance and praise God?

Seems like I remember this name, but not for good things.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

I don't know about VB, but one of his associates in the Apostolic Ministerial Fellowship, Joe Duke, would instruct a seeker to repeat this word "Walideau" telling them it meant Thank God in french.

I saw and heard him do this several times during a revival I was in with him in the early 70's

Far to many who get to told, "now you got it, that's the Holy Ghost" have been Wally-Dood thru.

There is simply no biblcal instruction that remotely resembles what we OP's do with and to people in our altars.

This is true it was Elder Joe Duke and not Verbal Bean.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

This is true it was Elder Joe Duke and not Verbal Bean.

Then I apologize. I thought it was Verbal Bean and I thought Eld. Epley had mentioned some time in the past that it was Verbal Bean. Evidently my memory is incorrect. I was wrong.

Thank you Eld. Epley for your correction.

[Raven]

That Elder Epley! ....... You have to admire that prodigious memory of his.