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Old 01-25-2021, 09:00 AM
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I have played both piano and organ in church and have written a few songs through the years, none ever published. I mostly enjoy playing the older hymns and choruses, and enjoy some of the newer music styles. I play by ear, and also can follow chord music, but have never had formal music lessons. I can read sheet music on a very basic level. Most of all, I love to worship the Lord, and many times I just sit at the piano and play, sing and pray.
Whenever I am asked to "play a special," I nearly always go for the old stuff. Sine my core style is blues-based, I'll take a Son House approach every time.

Recently I even used one of my self-built cigar-box guitars with a slide. I was amazed at how many people told me how much they missed the old stuff.
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:50 AM
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Well, without a doubt, the voice is first in the instrumental/praise Hierarchy
HaHa! Yes, indeed!

Would love to hear some of your music. Do you have
anything on youtube?
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:02 PM
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Not sure if those programs have the similar aspect as what I have been in contact with.

I recently gave a talk at a pastor's conference in Monterey, at a church a friend of mine pastors. He asked me if I would stay over and play for the music service.

The in-ear voile that drive the direction of the song was completely foreign to a guy that has played in bands his whole life--one in which direction is either give in real-time, or, in the case of most of my circuit-play--directed by head-bobs, lol.

I'm assuming Mainstage has the ability to compensate for missing band members--in other words, if you have a drummer, the drummer is dropped from the mix, and so on.

My problem was, the songs we played had like three or four "lead guitar" tracks, so it was a smorgasborg of clang.

And by "clang," I mean the "overt and odd musical osmosis that modern praise and worship has made with the style of U2." Nearly all of the Hillsong/Jesus Culture/insert-whomever here guitar technique involves the continual "down-pick" technique with no nuance. The riffs are all diatonically correct, but they sound harsh.

Now, I have never found that style completely off-putting, but at the same time, it seems to have a sterile and passion-less middle setting. For a guy that grew up on the dynamics of what a guitar can offer, it really set me back.
MainStage is a macOS program that gives you ability to use keyboards, guitars, vocals and even drums and arrange different voices and parameters within MainStage.

I plug the church's keyboard into my MacBook and use a MainStage layout called Sunday Keys to have as many as 5 different voices. My favorite is a grouping of a grand piano, CP piano, Rhodes piano, and a couple different sounding pad effects. I don't use them all at the same time but during a song I may use the grand and CP together or the grand with the Rhodes and a pad.

Each of these groups are called a patch and you can have several custom patches for whatever sounds you'd like to have for a song. I haven't even began to get into all the incredible things you can do with it. Sunday Sounds sells custom patches for songs that will allow you to use the mod wheel on a keyboard to change sounds based on the parts of a song (verse, chorus, bridge, etc).

I have other patches pairing a grand with synths or a B3 organ. Just really easy to use and tons of features.

You can use your guitar with MainStage -- just plug into an interface and MainStage has all kinds of amps and pedals that offer any guitar sound you can imagine.

I believe what you're talking about with the in-ear monitors and hearing the cues, click-track and pre-recorded instruments is called loops or multitrack.

Fortunately, I attend a smaller church and we don't use loops or tracks in our regular services. At the beginning of the pandemic, when we had parking lot services, I bought a few loops from multitracks.com and played the keyboard along with them to help make a full sound with drums, bass, guitar, etc. Haven't used them since then though.

I agree about the dynamics of the loops. It's not the same.

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Old 01-25-2021, 12:31 PM
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I'm thinking of starting a songwriter's thread--I'm writing a project right now, tentatively called "Outcasts." These are songs written from the perspective of the people Jesus healed in the Gospels, but then you never really hear from them again. It's blues based, with an acoustic foundation. I've got partial demos I could link to, but I'm still new here, and I don't want to waltz in all hoity-toity and trip the collective gag-reflex. Not that my music would be objectionable, I just don't want to be that annoying person that shows up to open-mics and reads seventy-four reams of post-modernist poetry, either.

So far I've written songs from the perspective of

-The blindman Jesus healed on the Sabbath
-The leper
-The demoniac (Yes, it's possible, and possibly the best song I've ever written called, My last night in the Gadarenes.")
I would love to hear those songs .
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HaHa! Yes, indeed!

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Here is a snip of the Blind man track. It's just an exploratory track. The song is written, and being arranged now. It has lyrics more complete than this.

This was recorded like this to give a friend of mine in Brazil an idea of what I was aiming for:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/04v7eqvwqelzuy2/mud.mp3?dl=0
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I would love to hear those songs .
I have responded above. And thank you.
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Here is a snip of the Blind man track. It's just an exploratory track. The song is written, and being arranged now. It has lyrics more complete than this.

This was recorded like this to give a friend of mine in Brazil an idea of what I was aiming for:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/04v7eqvwqelzuy2/mud.mp3?dl=0
Sounds great!!
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Here is a snip of the Blind man track. It's just an exploratory track. The song is written, and being arranged now. It has lyrics more complete than this.

This was recorded like this to give a friend of mine in Brazil an idea of what I was aiming for:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/04v7eqvwqelzuy2/mud.mp3?dl=0
I like it, Reminds me a little of Fleetwood Mac.
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Here is a snip of the Blind man track. It's just an exploratory track. The song is written, and being arranged now. It has lyrics more complete than this.

This was recorded like this to give a friend of mine in Brazil an idea of what I was aiming for:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/04v7eqvwqelzuy2/mud.mp3?dl=0
You have a great singing voice! Was that you
on the guitar also? Loved it! Look forward to
hearing more, thanks for sharing!
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You have a great singing voice! Was that you
on the guitar also? Loved it! Look forward to
hearing more, thanks for sharing!
That’s me on all of it.

I’ve got some miles on the musical odometer, for sure.

I play nine instruments, but the guitar is my mainstay, and the harmonica is a faithful friend too.

I do a certain amount of studio work, but it’s almost entirely guitar. I’ll Most likely be singing my own project. I’ll play most guitar, but my friend, Lari Basilio has promised to play a solo. She is one of my favorite players in the world.
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