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Old 12-29-2014, 12:08 PM
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Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...s-9946787.html

a pretty good synopsis, perhaps, from the Imperialists; there is also a reflection with a lot of validity @ http://www.presstv.ir/detail/392218.html , a Persian site.
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Old 12-29-2014, 04:35 PM
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Re: Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

"Churchill never seriously considered converting," Dr Dockter told The Independent. "He was more or less an atheist by this time anyway. He did however have a fascination with Islamic culture which was common among Victorians."
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Re: Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

i've read quotes of his that were very critical of the Islamic faith calling it "dangerous".
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Re: Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

ya, prolly mostly depends upon which liar one believes
i just thought it interesting. the iranian pov--being from an 'unfriendly'--is the more frank...
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Re: Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

Westerners have an interest in Asian culture, Japanese etc etc...that does not mean they convert to Buddhism
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Re: Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

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"Churchill never seriously considered converting," Dr Dockter told The Independent. "He was more or less an atheist by this time anyway. He did however have a fascination with Islamic culture which was common among Victorians."


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i've read quotes of his that were very critical of the Islamic faith calling it "dangerous".
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.” - Winston Churchill
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:39 AM
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Re: Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

hey, it's a religion. i'm the first to agree that it is deficient. but i would keep the faith and the religion separate, as the first inevitably describes people, whereas the second, an institution.
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Re: Sir Winston Churchill, closet Muslim?

Ya right obaam hates him and sent his bust back when he " took over"he wouldnt have done "that" if he was muslim
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