Apostolic -Jesus Name Apostasy

chosenbyone · #1 03-06-2007, 11:07 AM

My spiritual world was turned upside down last night. Many people would label me a liberal, but I once was conservative, maybe even an ultra-con. While reading the thread on GNC about Marilyn Gazowsky and the VOP, I began to surf the web to see what happened to the VOP. Even though I attended Brother Paul Price's church in Napa, I visited the VOP as many times as I could.

Below is the link for VOP, which shows that Richard Gazowsky, Senior Pastor, has a trinitarian couple pastoring with him. After digging further into the VOP, I found myself wondering if I have been in error regarding my current beliefs on standards. I thought that there was a new revelation of liberty from "holiness standards", but after what I've seen at VOP and @ Richard Heard's church, Christian Tabernacle, last year, I found myself thinking perhaps I've been mislead.

How can it be that these once great churches slowly descended into carnality and lost the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost in their services? I read on one of the threads here on AFF that once the churches drop the standards then Acts 2:28 was not preached anymore. What I've read and seen, I would have to say there was truth to that statement.

Additionally, I've included a link on an article regarding the present day apostasy of the Apostolic church. I am seeking the Lord for direction. Please keep me in your prayers.

http://www.it-is-easy.org/contact/friends/gazowsky.php

http://www.it-is-easy.org/pw/teach/index.php

Are we liberals being deceived by the spirit of deception that leads to apostasy?

#2 03-06-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone

My spiritual world was turned upside down last night. Many people would label me a liberal, but I once was conservative, maybe even an ultra-con. While reading the thread on GNC about Marilyn Gazowsky and the VOP, I began to surf the web to see what happened to the VOP. Even though I attended Brother Paul Price's church in Napa, I visited the VOP as many times as I could.

Below is the link for VOP, which shows that Richard Gazowsky, Senior Pastor, has a trinitarian couple pastoring with him. After digging further into the VOP, I found myself wondering if I have been in error regarding my current beliefs on standards. I thought that there was a new revelation of liberty from "holiness standards", but after what I've seen at VOP and @ Richard Heard's church, Christian Tabernacle, last year, I found myself thinking perhaps I've been mislead.

How can it be that these once great churches slowly descended into carnality and lost the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost in their services? I read on one of the threads here on AFF that once the churches drop the standards then Acts 2:28 was not preached anymore. What I've read and seen, I would have to say there was truth to that statement.

Additionally, I've included a link on an article regarding the present day apostasy of the Apostolic church. I am seeking the Lord for direction. Please keep me in your prayers.

http://www.it-is-easy.org/contact/friends/gazowsky.php

http://www.it-is-easy.org/pw/teach/index.php

Are we liberals being deceived by the spirit of deception that leads to apostasy?

That's the KEY.

Pastor Keith · #3 03-06-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone

My spiritual world was turned upside down last night. Many people would label me a liberal, but I once was conservative, maybe even an ultra-con. While reading the thread on GNC about Marilyn Gazowsky and the VOP, I began to surf the web to see what happened to the VOP. Even though I attended Brother Paul Price's church in Napa, I visited the VOP as many times as I could.

Below is the link for VOP, which shows that Richard Gazowsky, Senior Pastor, has a trinitarian couple pastoring with him. After digging further into the VOP, I found myself wondering if I have been in error regarding my current beliefs on standards. I thought that there was a new revelation of liberty from "holiness standards", but after what I've seen at VOP and @ Richard Heard's church, Christian Tabernacle, last year, I found myself thinking perhaps I've been mislead.

How can it be that these once great churches slowly descended into carnality and lost the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost in their services? I read on one of the threads here on AFF that once the churches drop the standards then Acts 2:28 was not preached anymore. What I've read and seen, I would have to say there was truth to that statement.

Additionally, I've included a link on an article regarding the present day apostasy of the Apostolic church. I am seeking the Lord for direction. Please keep me in your prayers.

http://www.it-is-easy.org/contact/friends/gazowsky.php

http://www.it-is-easy.org/pw/teach/index.php

Are we liberals being deceived by the spirit of deception that leads to apostasy?

Fruits and standards (works) are always a result of poor roots (beliefs), brother take care of the roots of your faith and you will be OK.

Coonskinner · #4 03-06-2007, 11:57 AM

If there is a live root, there will be something visible growing above the ground, too.

Pastor Keith · #5 03-06-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coonskinner

If there is a live root, there will be something visible growing above the ground, too.

Richard's problem is he lost sight of his mission and purpose, that work in SF was not raised up by God to make movies or other stupid stuff.

The Church is soul saving station and God uses the medium of preaching/teaching and the operation of spiritual gifts (those listed in scripture) to accomplish these tasks.

HeavenlyOne · #6 03-06-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone

My spiritual world was turned upside down last night. Many people would label me a liberal, but I once was conservative, maybe even an ultra-con. While reading the thread on GNC about Marilyn Gazowsky and the VOP, I began to surf the web to see what happened to the VOP. Even though I attended Brother Paul Price's church in Napa, I visited the VOP as many times as I could.

Below is the link for VOP, which shows that Richard Gazowsky, Senior Pastor, has a trinitarian couple pastoring with him. After digging further into the VOP, I found myself wondering if I have been in error regarding my current beliefs on standards. I thought that there was a new revelation of liberty from "holiness standards", but after what I've seen at VOP and @ Richard Heard's church, Christian Tabernacle, last year, I found myself thinking perhaps I've been mislead.

How can it be that these once great churches slowly descended into carnality and lost the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost in their services? I read on one of the threads here on AFF that once the churches drop the standards then Acts 2:28 was not preached anymore. What I've read and seen, I would have to say there was truth to that statement.

Additionally, I've included a link on an article regarding the present day apostasy of the Apostolic church. I am seeking the Lord for direction. Please keep me in your prayers.

http://www.it-is-easy.org/contact/friends/gazowsky.php

http://www.it-is-easy.org/pw/teach/index.php

Are we liberals being deceived by the spirit of deception that leads to apostasy?

I, for one, wouldn't take anything Reckart says too seriously. The guy is a little whacko, IMO.

I am a person who hasn't followed the traditional UPC standards for many years, yet I still believe in Acts 2:38 to the core and don't ever see that changing. It can be done.