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Old 06-25-2019, 12:19 PM
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Re: Mental Health Issues and Demonic Oppression

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Her comment about unforgiveness being the gateway to mental health issues is an interesting take, one in which I can agree. I know personally how unforgiveness can affect a person. It can develop into bitterness and really eat away at a person.

As for anti-depressants being a form of sorcery and witchcraft -- what about other medications? Are all medications a form of sorcery and witchcraft? Tylenol? Blood pressure meds? Beta blockers? Other health or disease managing medications?
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Her comment about unforgiveness being the gateway to mental health issues is an interesting take, one in which I can agree. I know personally how unforgiveness can affect a person. It can develop into bitterness and really eat away at a person.

As for anti-depressants being a form of sorcery and witchcraft -- what about other medications? Are all medications a form of sorcery and witchcraft? Tylenol? Blood pressure meds? Beta blockers? Other health or disease managing medications?



Ran into people like that...had a big book listing the roots of illness and disease...all some nebulous explanation which never gives anyone the ability to get out of where they are supposedly stuck by applying the reasoning that if they are experiencing the symptoms then it must be "this or that".


Jesus wept...was he struggling with unforgivness as well? What about Jeremiah the "weeping prophet" We'd look at that and call that depression from an outside view.


There is a difference in types of depression.



Some depression is just being emotionally wore out and drained...or are we not allowed to be honest about what is going on inside without being seen as sinful reprobates?


Put enough pressure on people and they will break...she just hasnt had the screws tightened tight enough.


If she had she wouldnt be making blanket statements trolling after people looking for "the next big thing".


Im not into comparing my life with others in a way where I look down on people if they struggle differently than I do and if they dont do it my way they are wrong.
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Jesus wept...was he struggling with unforgivness as well?
Wait ... You believe Jesus was suffering from mental illness??? Because He wept at the grief his friends were feeling?

We're talking about mental illness, not someone expressing normal sorrow and grief.

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What about Jeremiah the "weeping prophet" We'd look at that and call that depression from an outside view.
Again, are you suggesting Jeremiah had a mental illness as well? Why do you believe Jeremiah was weeping?

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There is a difference in types of depression.
I somewhat disagree. Yes, there are different classifications of depression, but I don't believe some of what is listed in your post is actually depression. I don't believe Jesus or Jeremiah were depressed or suffered from mental illness. I don't believe being wore out or drained is depression or mental illness.

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Some depression is just being emotionally wore out and drained...or are we not allowed to be honest about what is going on inside without being seen as sinful reprobates?
I don't consider being wore out and drained being depressed or having mental illness.

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Wait ... You believe Jesus was suffering from mental illness??? Because He wept at the grief his friends were feeling?

We're talking about mental illness, not someone expressing normal sorrow and grief.


Again, are you suggesting Jeremiah had a mental illness as well? Why do you believe Jeremiah was weeping?


I somewhat disagree. Yes, there are different classifications of depression, but I don't believe some of what is listed in your post is actually depression. I don't believe Jesus or Jeremiah were depressed or suffered from mental illness. I don't believe being wore out or drained is depression or mental illness.


I don't consider being wore out and drained being depressed or having mental illness.

You have depression due to circumstances and events then you have chemically induced depression.


Im not pinning a mental illness on Jesus but the Bible does say that He was a man of sorrows acquainted with grief.
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Im not pinning a mental illness on Jesus but the Bible does say that He was a man of sorrows acquainted with grief.
That doesn't mean Jesus was depressed.
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That doesn't mean Jesus was depressed.



Ok. Not going round and round again. I think that woman is a kook. Nuff said.
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Ok. Not going round and round again.
I'm just not following you. We're in a thread about "mental health issues and demonic oppression" and in a larger scope, depression -- and you use Jesus and Jeremiah as examples of depression? It's frustrating when people make drive by statements and refuse to answer questions or give reason or defend the statements.

Why were Jesus and Jeremiah weeping? Why was Jesus "a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief?"

You posted that we would call it depression, but why? I certainly wouldn't claim either were depressed because of the reason both were weeping and the reason Jesus was "a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief."



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I think that woman is a kook. Nuff said.
I don't agree with her on everything. I thought her comments regarding unforgiveness and drugs being sorcery were interesting and wanted to discuss further.
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