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Originally Posted by Esaias View Post
The Logos is God expressing Himself. It is a function of His Divine nature and reality. It is not a created thing. NOTHING - N O T H I N G - that was made was made by anyone OTHER than the Logos. So if the Logos "began to exist" (was made, formed, begotten, etc) it was made formed or begotten BY THE LOGOS. Hello? The Logos formed itself?
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The Logos that was with God was the form he made for himself to speak to creation through. The Logos was formed, made, created whatever
by the omnipresent Spirit. Not another God person or spirit.
The Word was with God....as his form to work through, and be seen through. The Word was God because some of his eternal life was in the form.
1 John 1:2
For the life was manifested and we have seen it and bear witness and show unto you that
eternal life which was
WITH THE FATHER, and was manifest to us.
Proverbs 8:22-23
22The LORD
possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
Remember I gave two Hebrew versions,
The JPS Version 1917
The Complete Jewish Bible
That translated the word "possessed" as "made".
Here is the Peshitta Aramaic.
The Lord
CREATED me as the
FIRST of his creations, before all of his works.
Now lets look at Strongs definition of the same word.
No.7069-to erect, i.e.
CREATE.
Sounds a lot like:
Rev. 3:14
And to the angel of the Church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the amen, the faithful and true witness,
THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION OF GOD.
Exactly the same truth.
The difference in this truth and Arianism is they dont believe the image or Logos was formed from the YHWH but was of another substance apart
FROM HIM.
God and the Logos are distinct from each other in mode of being but not in person or identity.
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