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Old 08-09-2019, 09:05 AM
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Beyonce never was the gatekeeper to my salvation brother.
Where does it say in Scripture that a pastor is the "gatekeeper" to my soul? I find that concept a bit disturbing. I have learned to love and value the ministry that God has put in my life. I have been blessed to have been under some wonderful men who had a real walk with God and were in tune with the Spirit. They effectively ministered to me and helped me in my walk with God. But ultimately, I am responsible for my own salvation. I suspect there will be a lot of blame and finger-pointing on Judgment Day which will hold no water with the Supreme Judge.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:12 AM
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…..one mediator between God and man....
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…..one mediator between God and man....
The pastor?
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I don’t quite know what’s going on in this thread. Asking for clarity.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:52 AM
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The pastor?
Im not sure I know anyone that feels like the Pastor is the mediator between God and Man.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:17 PM
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:18 PM
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I learned more about idolotry in church than I ever learned from movies or sports. Its a terrible burden we place on other men to elevate them to that point.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:21 PM
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Beyonce never was the gatekeeper to my salvation brother.
A Pastor isn't a gatekeeper to your salvation, either.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:25 PM
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JamesGlen said; My teenage daughter recently asked me, “daddy, do you think pastors are elevated too much?

It has been my experience that these types of question don't just pop into the minds of teenagers... If there was no fear of rebuke or questioning of "where did this question come from, and who have you been talking to or hearing from" these questions would never be asked.

not starting a fight but that aint setting well.
I thought the same.
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