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Old 04-08-2022, 02:20 AM
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Re: Satan opens eyes & God opens eyes - the differ

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Still not sure how you're asking about that in reference to fulfilled eschatology.

The tree of life is eternal life now. It is not a literal Tree, I believe. The tree lines both sides of the river of life, and Psalm 2 ties that in with us as trees planted by the waters whose fruit and leaves remain, while the fruit and leaves are emphasized in Rev 22 on the tree. It's all related to Ezekiel 47.
Eternal life is conditional

Romans 2:6-8 ESV
He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.

Eternal life is conditional to a future ressurection

John 5:25-29 ESV
“Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man. Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

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Old 04-08-2022, 12:39 PM
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Re: Satan opens eyes & God opens eyes - the differ

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Eternal life is conditional

Romans 2:6-8 ESV
He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.

Eternal life is conditional to a future ressurection

John 5:25-29 ESV
“Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man. Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.
We certainly can lose life, but Jesus gave us HIs Spirit and He is the eternal life, Himself. So, we already have eternal life, and the body will be rendered immortal in the resurrection, but that is physical eternal life.
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