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Old 07-02-2010, 05:59 AM
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SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

In checking in with SEU, about getting a PhD so far the response time has been very slow on the part of Dr John Johnson, academic director SEU.

What I have learned is that:

Mr. Johnson was quick to inform me
"SEU is an American University and as such is not able to award UK qualifications."

Also they cannot admit students from Arkansas, odd considering that is where their "campus" is located.

And the best part so far is their email address you would expect something like jjohnson@SEU.edu. Right?

Oh no they are upscale the email address of the "academic director" is OwlsJKJ@aol.com

I will keep all of you updated in my pursuit of PhD.

Special thanks to Lee Stoneking who turned me on to his alma mater.
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In checking in with SEU, about getting a PhD so far the response time has been very slow on the part of Dr John Johnson, academic director SEU.

What I have learned is that:

Mr. Johnson was quick to inform me
"SEU is an American University and as such is not able to award UK qualifications."

Also they cannot admit students from Arkansas, odd considering that is where their "campus" is located.

And the best part so far is their email address you would expect something like jjohnson@SEU.edu. Right?

Oh no they are upscale the email address of the "academic director" is OwlsJKJ@aol.com

I will keep all of you updated in my pursuit of PhD.

Special thanks to Lee Stoneking who turned me on to his alma mater.

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Old 07-02-2010, 06:49 AM
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You are relentless.
Well, when someone makes a special plea or provides a CV with academic credentials, that person is making an argument themselves - and "argument from authority" - they are making a claim that they are an "authority" to some degree on the matter under discussion based upon the degrees and other awards that they hold.

So far, the men whose arguments are under discussion lately have come up short when it comes to the degrees they have touted.

There are many others who have been discussed recently - Talmadge French, DKB and many others. These guys with authentic degrees, however, don't seem to make the sorts of outrageous claims that others with "exaggerated" degree credentials have made.

One exception - in my own observation - has been Arlo M. He does hold a valid and earned doctorate in chemical engineering from an accredited university. He has however made the most outlandish and unreasonable claims with regard to the creation/evolution debate. He peddles claims that most of the Young Earth crowd abandoned decades ago.

All of the rest of the guys making outrageous claims all have exaggerated their credentials.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:24 AM
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Hey Timmy, have you received any more emails from them?
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

"Those who are awarded a Doctorate may, at the discretion of the University, be appointed Fellows of the University and Members of their Faculty."

http://www.southerneasternuniversity...degree-uk.html

So this is how Dr. Stoneking lists himself as faculty...

When does deliberatly misleading become a lie?
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

Now why is it that they only peddle their merchandise in America even thought they are located in the UK?

Because it is a violation of UK law for them to sell their bogus diplomas.

The Education Reform Act 1988.
214. Unrecognised degrees. — (1) Any person who, in the course of business, grants, offers to grant or issues any invitation relating to any award—
(a)
which may reasonably be taken to be an award granted or to be granted by a United Kingdom institution; and
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which either—
(i) is described as a degree; or
(ii) purports to confer on its holder the right to the title of bachelor, master or doctor and may reasonably be taken to be a degree;
shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale.
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"All degrees are awarded by Southern Eastern University (USA). SEU does not have a located campus either residential or non-residential. Its campus is a world-wide e-campus with Administrative Offices."

http://www.southerneasternuniversity...ersity-uk.html
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Hey Timmy, have you received any more emails from them?
Not yet. But it's been just a day since my last reply to them.
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Well, when someone makes a special plea or provides a CV with academic credentials, that person is making an argument themselves - and "argument from authority" - they are making a claim that they are an "authority" to some degree on the matter under discussion based upon the degrees and other awards that they hold.

So far, the men whose arguments are under discussion lately have come up short when it comes to the degrees they have touted.

There are many others who have been discussed recently - Talmadge French, DKB and many others. These guys with authentic degrees, however, don't seem to make the sorts of outrageous claims that others with "exaggerated" degree credentials have made.

One exception - in my own observation - has been Arlo M. He does hold a valid and earned doctorate in chemical engineering from an accredited university. He has however made the most outlandish and unreasonable claims with regard to the creation/evolution debate. He peddles claims that most of the Young Earth crowd abandoned decades ago.

All of the rest of the guys making outrageous claims all have exaggerated their credentials.
ABsolutely right.

Even better, those that have Doctorates or some credential from SOME school, most often are not specific or concentrated in Christian Theology, Exegetical Teaching, Divinity, etc... It's usually either in the broad field of "religion" or "education," etc

PhD in chem engineering? Not sure the scope of this degree or how his degree makes his an expert in the matter. However, any educated man can surely have an opinion about Young Earth, New Earth Creationism, etc.
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"All degrees are awarded by Southern Eastern University (USA). SEU does not have a located campus either residential or non-residential. Its campus is a world-wide e-campus with Administrative Offices."

http://www.southerneasternuniversity...ersity-uk.html
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