What I'm Learning From Islam:

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

The very first thing I learned from Islam, and it's seen frequently throughout the year, that it's the most violent religion on the face of the earth.

The second thing I've learned is that women are second class citizens within Islam. As Islam is exposed more and more to western ideologies concerning women, it's hopeful that women will rise to a position equal to men. As of today though, women have far fewer rights than men. Here's a little sample of what I've learned about Islam....

"Throughout the Muslim world, women are treated as second-class citizens who are inferior to men in terms of intelligence, morals, and faith. This arrangement derives from the Qur'an itself, which states unambiguously: “Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other” (Qur'an 4:34).

The Qur'an likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: “Your women are a tilth for you [to cultivate], so go to your tilth as ye will” (2:223). Such a view is consistent with the teachings of the prophet Muhammad, who emphasized that women were little more than possessions of, and objects of sexual pleasure for, their husbands: “The husband is only obliged to support his wife when she gives herself to him or offers to, meaning she allows him full enjoyment of her person and does not refuse him sex at any time of the night or day.”

The Qur'an instructs husbands to beat their disobedient wives: “Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property [for the support of women]. So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them” (4:34).

The Qur'an allows men to marry up to four wives; women, by contrast, may have only one husband.

A Muslim man can divorce his wife easily, but a Muslim woman faces great obstacles should she want a divorce from her husband.

Shi'ite Islam, the dominant form of Islam in Iran, allows for men to take “temporary wives”; i.e., short-term sexual companions who typically contract for a relationship that will last for three days, at which point it can be extended if the man desires.

Fundamentalist Islam permits men to have sex with slave girls also: “If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly [with them], then only one, or [a captive] that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice” (4:3).

The Islamic court system relegates women to a most lowly status. According to the Qur'an, a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man. In cases of rape, no conviction can occur in an Islamic court unless four male eyewitnesses testify to having seen the act occur. This is in keeping with a 7th-century edict issued by Muhammad.

The Muslim world also features the widespread practice of accusing rape victims of having engaged in illicit sexual relations (zina), an offense which carries punishments ranging from imprisonment and flogging to death by stoning.

The property and inheritance rights of Muslim women are meager in comparison to those of men. Islamic law mandates, for instance, that a son’s inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: “Allah [thus] directs you as regards your children’s [inheritance]: to the male, a portion equal to that of two females” (4:11).

In some Muslim countries, the law stipulates that “the husband may forbid his wife to leave the home,” and that “a woman may not leave the city without her husband or a member of her unmarriageable kin accompanying her, unless the journey is obligatory, like the hajj.” Gender segregation in public is also imposed or encouraged in parts of the Muslim world.

Female genital mutilation is widespread among some Muslim communities, especially in Egypt, East Africa, Yemen, and Indonesia. Many Muslim leaders see the practice as essential for preserving women’s chastity on which the all-important family honor largely depends.

Veiling is another common practice in Muslim culture. The Hanafi and Maliki schools of Islamic law permit a woman's face and hands to be revealed in public, thus there is no need for a veil over the face. Among Hanbalis there are two opinions, some permitting the exposure of face and hands, others forbidding it. The Shafi'is demand that a woman’s face and hands be covered in public, thus demanding some kind of veil over her face.

In several Muslim countries, child marriages -- where young girls marry much older men -- are legal. This tradition derives from the fact that the prophet Muhammad married his favorite wife Aisha when she was six years old and consummated the marriage when the girl was nine. This is why, following the 1979 Iranian Revolution, Iran’s new rulers lowered the minimum age of marriage for girls to nine."

Next, tex!!

LOL

They live longer but their healthcare is terrible
They have safer neighborhoods and communities but they are violent
They are financially better off but they are herders who live in dirt huts
They have higher literacy rates but terrible education systems

Compared to Americans

So as bad and horrible as their lives are - what does that say about the wonderful glass house that you have built Oh Learned One

NOTE: Veils are prohibited in Mecca during Hajj. You didn't know that. Implies that there might be a 'cultural issue' with veiling BUT Islam doesn't have anything to do with it. I guess Oh Learned One this fact was buried in the vast and unending collection of facts that you have gleaned from the writings and experiences of others.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

BUT:

They live longer
They have safer neighborhoods and communities
They are financially better off
They have higher literacy rates

Compared to Americans

So as bad and horrible as their lives are - what does that say about the wonderful glass house that you have built Oh Learned One

But....

There's not an exodus from a first world country to a muslim country, just the opposite.

The woman is a second-class citizen in Islam

Any financial windfalls in the middle east is directly related to the west, especially the Americans, coming to the aid of goat herding, camel riding backward muslims

When someone in an Islamic country wishes to attain the highest level of education, they go to the west, to America. That's because the highest rated universities in the world aren't in the middle east.

When advanced medical care is needed, the best facilities aren't in the middle eastern countries, it's in the west, in America.

Oh, and when one wishes to observe the most violent religion on earth, simply look to the middle east and Islam.

Next, tex!

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

But....

There's not an exodus from a first world country to a muslim country, just the opposite.

The woman is a second-class citizen in Islam

Any financial windfalls in the middle east is directly related to the west, especially the Americans, coming to the aid of goat herding, camel riding backward muslims

When someone in an Islamic country wishes to attain the highest level of education, they go to the west, to America. That's because the highest rated universities in the world aren't in the middle east.

When advanced medical care is needed, the best facilities aren't in the middle eastern countries, it's in the west, in America.

Oh, and when one wishes to observe the most violent religion on earth, simply look to the middle east and Islam.

Next, tex!

It is interesting that violent, goat-herding, camel-riding, backwards Muslims:

Live longer
Have safer neighborhoods
Have higher literacy rates
Are financially better off

These are presented as facts with the sources neatly listed

What does that say about your glass house?

This is the symbol of what America is becoming:


https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...iw=976&bih=464

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

But....

There's not an exodus from a first world country to a muslim country, just the opposite.

The woman is a second-class citizen in Islam

Any financial windfalls in the middle east is directly related to the west, especially the Americans, coming to the aid of goat herding, camel riding backward muslims

When someone in an Islamic country wishes to attain the highest level of education, they go to the west, to America. That's because the highest rated universities in the world aren't in the middle east.

When advanced medical care is needed, the best facilities aren't in the middle eastern countries, it's in the west, in America.

Oh, and when one wishes to observe the most violent religion on earth, simply look to the middle east and Islam.

Next, tex!

It is interesting that violent, goat-herding, camel-riding, backwards Muslims:

Live longer
Have safer neighborhoods
Have higher literacy rates
Are financially better off

These are presented as facts with the sources neatly listed

What does that say about your glass house?

This is the symbol of what America is becoming:


https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...iw=976&bih=464

This is the symbol of what Islam is becoming:

https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...iw=976&bih=464

You probably know this though. It is why you must desperately convince yourself that the first is somehow better than the second but inside you know differently. What you have and had was not given to you by "America" it was given to you by God. He gives, and He takes it away based on what you do with it. It is sad to watch a society in so much decline but so convinced of their rightness and superiority that they are better than others that they do not even realize it.

The professors in your universities are not Americans friend. You should attend one. Mine were Chinese or Korean or Indian or European but only a few were American. The goods you buy and use are not made in America either. They are made by workers who never have and never will ever see America, but profit from America's consumption of goods paid for with borrowed money.

Just as the Muslims do. No Muslim country was affected by the "great financial crisis" because debt and interest are forbidden in Muslim businesses. You and your fellows are (1) Chinese bond sale from complete ruin and you and the rest of you know it. Yet you speak of goat-herding and camel-riding as if a few hundred million dollars of US bonds sold by people who do not live in and have never seen America would not sink you to that level and lower.

Your pride is unjustified because it is not earned. It is necessary to be independent to be proud. You on the other hand are proud but dependent, deeply dependent, on people you hate and fear to keep you afloat. That makes you pathetic. Next.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

It is interesting that violent, goat-herding, camel-riding, backwards Muslims:

Live longer
Have safer neighborhoods
Have higher literacy rates
Are financially better off

These are presented as facts with the sources neatly listed

What does that say about your glass house?

The muslims aren't as much goat herding, camel riding, backward and ignorant today as they were before America, and the west, came to their aid. Only because the west, especially America, developed an industry that the then goat herding, camel riding, backward and ignorant muslims couldn't develop on their own do they enjoy a higher standard of living.

Even today though, there isn't an exodus FROM America or the west to the middle east Islamic countries, there's an eodous FROM the Islamic middle eastern countries to the west and America. The reason for that is because of economic and educational opportunities not available to them in Islamic countries along with leaving the oppression of Islam, especially toward women.

Want to see the countries with the highest standard of living measured by important indicators (not things like commute time)? Look at the non-muslim countries. Want to see the most violent religion on the face of the earth. Look at the muslim countries.

Tex, you gotta face the facts.

This is the symbol of what America is becoming:


https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...iw=976&bih=464

This is the symbol of what Islam is becoming:

https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...iw=976&bih=464

Well, tex, that's interesting. Apparently the worse America has to offer is better than the best Islam has to offer. Muslims are begging, paying, to get to America. If the Islamic countries are so advanced and wonderful, why are folks seeking to emigrate by the thousands?

Now, how many westerners, including Americans, are standing in line to emigrate to an Islamic middle eastern country? The answer is, virtually none.

Give us your insight, mr muslim.

You probably know this though. It is why you must desperately convince yourself that the first is somehow better than the second but inside you know differently. What you have and had was not given to you by "America" it was given to you by God. He gives, and He takes it away based on what you do with it. It is sad to watch a society in so much decline but so convinced of their rightness and superiority that they are better than others that they do not even realize it.

The professors in your universities are not Americans friend. You should attend one. Mine were Chinese or Korean or Indian or European but only a few were American. The goods you buy and use are not made in America either. They are made by workers who never have and never will ever see America, but profit from America's consumption of goods paid for with borrowed money.

What? LOL!! Not Americans? LOL!!!

America, at it's worse far far exceeds the manufacturing output of Islamic countries. Why is that? It's because they only rely on oil, the gift that the west and America gave them. Pay homage to America for your economic status and education, tex.

Just as the Muslims do. No Muslim country was affected by the "great financial crisis" because debt and interest are forbidden in Muslim businesses. You and your fellows are (1) Chinese bond sale from complete ruin and you and the rest of you know it. Yet you speak of goat-herding and camel-riding as if a few hundred million dollars of US bonds sold by people who do not live in and have never seen America would not sink you to that level and lower.

Your pride is unjustified because it is not earned. It is necessary to be independent to be proud. You on the other hand are proud but dependent, deeply dependent, on people you hate and fear to keep you afloat. That makes you pathetic. Next.

Islam is first in some categories, such as religious violence. Here's a few images from the religion of peace......


Civil Defense members and residents gather around a crater caused by one of the two explosions outside one of two mosques in Lebanon's northern city of Tripoli, August 23. Twin explosions exploded Friday outside Sunni mosques in the city of Tripoli in northern Lebanon killing at least 27 people and wounded hundreds.



43 Iraqis Killed, 86 Injured in Baghdad Suicide Bomber Attack on Cafe



Men, women, children...it doesn't matter in Islam. 1600 Syrians Killed in Gas Attack By Government Forces Near Damascus



A bomb ripped through a crowd of Sunni worshippers coming out of a mosque in northern Iraq after prayers at the start of a major Muslim holiday on Tuesday, killing 12 people and wounding 24, Iraqi officials said.

Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth.

And I can find a lot more photos of Islamic violence if you want.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Want to see the countries with the highest standard of living measured by important indicators (not things like commute time)? Look at the non-muslim countries. Want to see the most violent religion on the face of the earth. Look at the muslim countries.

Tex, you gotta face the facts.


Well, tex, that's interesting. Apparently the worse America has to offer is better than the best Islam has to offer. Muslims are begging, paying, to get to America. If the Islamic countries are so advanced and wonderful, why are folks seeking to emigrate by the thousands?

Now, how many westerners, including Americans, are standing in line to emigrate to an Islamic middle eastern country? The answer is, virtually none.

Give us your insight, mr muslim.



What? LOL!! Not Americans? LOL!!!

America, at it's worse far far exceeds the manufacturing output of Islamic countries. Why is that? It's because they only rely on oil, the gift that the west and America gave them. Pay homage to America for your economic status and education, tex.

Islam is first in some categories, such as religious violence. Here's a few images from the religion of peace......


Islam is the most violent religion on the face of the earth.

And I can find a lot more photos of Islamic violence if you want.

I know you can find a lot more photos. You can find lots of stuff. You can comment all you want on commute times or violence but this is what you cannot do:

You cannot explain why 24 Muslim countries full of violent Muslims have lower murder rates than America

You cannot explain why people in Muslim countries who are backwards camel riders and goat herders live longer or just a long as Americans with all of their wonderful and superior healthcare

You also cannot explain why literacy rates among women in backwards, goat-herding Muslim countries are the same as or higher than literacy rates in America

You cannot explain why the cost of living and purchasing power of families who live in countries with scant water and scant space and scant resources is higher than it is in America.

This is my experience: Thousands and thousands of American resumes come across desks in Muslim countries from Americans who are looking for better jobs and better places to live with their families. Very few are selected. I was there and I got the opportunity to personally vet and round-file those resumes in batches by the hundreds. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Dhahran, and Doha are full of Americans and American families and those Americans have to be FORCED to retire at 60 so that they will go home. What are they doing there and why are they trying to go there if it is "so great" where they are Oh Learned One?

http://www.internations.org/doha-expats/americans
http://www.expatforum.com/expats/dub...ing-dubai.html
http://www.internations.org/abu-dhabi-expats/americans

Let me tell you, hearing them talk about life there they are just MISERABLE (laughing)

PS: I don't expect YOU to check on life there but I suspect some of your peers will. Which one of us in this game of "can you" do you think will be more believable after they do Oh Learned One?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Give us your insight, mr muslim.

My insight is this:

2 of the top 10 countries listed on the "Patients Beyond Borders" site are Muslim countries.

With all of the world's countries to choose from - can you explain this?

What are the top destinations?

Brazil, Costa Rica, India, Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United States

We estimate some 900,000 Americans will travel outside the US for medical care this year (2013).

Almost a million? Really? I didn't even count India as a Muslim country even though you lump them in with the others LOL.

Apparently the worse America has to offer is better than the best Islam has to offer. Muslims are begging, paying, to get to America. If the Islamic countries are so advanced and wonderful, why are folks seeking to emigrate by the thousands? should be changed to Apparently the BEST America has to offer is worse than what backwards, goat-herding Muslims have to offer. Americans are begging, paying, to get medical treatment outside America.

If America is so advanced and wonderful, why are almost 1,000,000 Americans seeking their healthcare in other countries?

A better question would be:

There are 1.2 billion Muslims. That is 19% of the world's population. There were 1.03 million immigrants to the US in 2012, but only 11% of them were from Muslim countries. If it is so horrible there and so much better here wouldn't those numbers at least reflect world population? 122,134 Muslim immigrants out of 1.2 billion Muslims and 1,000,000 Americans seeking healthcare outside of America out of 313 million. Almost a half percent of all Americans need to get healthcare outside America? (laughing)

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I know you can find a lot more photos. You can find lots of stuff. You can comment all you want on commute times or violence but this is what you cannot do:

You cannot explain why 24 Muslim countries full of violent Muslims have lower murder rates than America

You cannot explain why people in Muslim countries who are backwards camel riders and goat herders live longer or just a long as Americans with all of their wonderful and superior healthcare

You also cannot explain why literacy rates among women in backwards, goat-herding Muslim countries are the same as or higher than literacy rates in America

You cannot explain why the cost of living and purchasing power of families who live in countries with scant water and scant space and scant resources is higher than it is in America.

This is my experience: Thousands and thousands of American resumes come across desks in Muslim countries from Americans who are looking for better jobs and better places to live with their families. Very few are selected. I was there and I got the opportunity to personally vet and round-file those resumes in batches by the hundreds. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Dhahran, and Doha are full of Americans and American families and those Americans have to be FORCED to retire at 60 so that they will go home. What are they doing there and why are they trying to go there if it is "so great" where they are Oh Learned One?

http://www.internations.org/doha-expats/americans
http://www.expatforum.com/expats/dub...ing-dubai.html
http://www.internations.org/abu-dhabi-expats/americans

Let me tell you, hearing them talk about life there they are just MISERABLE (laughing)

PS: I don't expect YOU to check on life there but I suspect some of your peers will. Which one of us in this game of "can you" do you think will be more believable after they do Oh Learned One?

It is easy to get comfortable here, that's for sure.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

It is easy to get comfortable here, that's for sure.

When I was in the Navy I loved going to Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Bahrain.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I know you can find a lot more photos. You can find lots of stuff. You can comment all you want on commute times or violence but this is what you cannot do:

You've failed to show a religion more violent than Islam. That's because Islam is the most violent religion on earth. Here's a few more photos for you to enjoy...there are literally thousands of them...


At least 30 people have been killed and 25 wounded in a bomb attack on a Sunni mosque on the outskirts of the central Iraqi city of Baquba



Security forces inspect the scene of a suicide bomb attack at a coffee shop in Kirkuk, 180 miles north of Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, July 13, 2013. The late Friday attack killed and wounded dozens of people



Two bombings outside mosques in Pakistan's northwest killed at least 13 people and injured 45 others

I don't expect you to be disturbed or dismayed by these damnable act of the Islamic religion. Neither are other muslims such as yourself.

You cannot explain why 24 Muslim countries full of violent Muslims have lower murder rates than America

As usual, you're attempting to take the focus from the violent RELIGION of Islam. Please, tell us of another RELIGION today that is more violent, tex.

You cannot explain why people in Muslim countries who are backwards camel riders and goat herders live longer or just a long as Americans with all of their wonderful and superior healthcare

Probably because of their diet. Now, where are the top rated hospitals in the world located? Where do those who are politically and financially able in the middle east go for the highest level of medical care? Hint: They're not in muslim contries. Here's a list....

NYU Langone Medical Center New York
bandera

Cleveland Clinic Cleveland Ohio
bandera

Taipei Veterans General Hospital
bandera

St Jude Children's Research Hospital
bandera

Vanderbilt Medical Center
bandera

Johns Hopkins Medicine
bandera

University of Maryland Medical Center
bandera

University of Rochester Medical Center
bandera

University of Nebraska Medical Center
bandera

M D Anderson Cancer Center
bandera

Mahidol University Faculty of Medicine Siriraj Hospital
bandera

Assistance Publique Hôpitaux de Paris
bandera

Columbia University Medical Center New York
bandera

Massachusetts General Hospital
bandera

Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
bandera

Aurora Health Care
bandera

Rush University Medical Center
bandera

Children's Hospital Boston
bandera

University Clinic Heidelberg Universittsklinikum Heidelberg
bandera

Brigham and Women's Hospital
bandera

(1) Hartford Hospital
bandera

INCA Instituto Nacional de Câncer
bandera

University of Connecticut Health Center
bandera

Navy Medicine
bandera

Kaiser Permanente CA

Notice how many are in America.

You also cannot explain why literacy rates among women in backwards, goat-herding Muslim countries are the same as or higher than literacy rates in America

Not true. I doubt you read this earlier so I'll post it again in hopes that you will actually learn something about the oppresive behavior toward women in Islam........

The literacy rates aren't higher.

"…the whole Arab world translates about three hundred books annually–one fifth the number that Greece alone translates; investment in research and development is less than one seventh the world average; and Internet connectivity is worse than in sub-Saharan Africa.[3]

January 2012
Pakistan ranks second in the global ranking of countries with the highest number of out-of-school children with the figure estimated to be about 25 million. Seven million have yet to receive some form of primary schooling. As many as 9,800 schools were reportedly affected in Sindh and Balochistan due to floods. Around 600,000 children of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are reported to have missed one or more years of education due to ongoing militancy.

Pakistan has the lowest youth literacy rate. Only 59 percent females are literate as compared to 79 percent of males in the age group of 15 to 24 years. There are around 51.2 million adult illiterates in Pakistan. Only 65 percent schools have drinking water facilities, 62 percent have toilet facilities, 61 percent have a boundary wall and only 39 percent have electricity.[15]
September 2012
[edit]Saudi Arabia
In Saudi Arabia, the lack of books is accompanied by the struggle to modernize basic educational institutions. In his new book, Prophets and Princes, Mark Weston points out that Saudi Arabia did not have a high school until after 1930, and its first girls’ school was established after 1950. The Saudis have only 250 public libraries to serve a population of 26 million people, and there were no hours for female readers until 2006. The Saudis spend many millions of dollars translating and publishing the Quran into other languages, without devoting similar efforts to making foreign books available in Arabic.[2]
2008
[edit]Tajikistan
The deputy chairman of Tajikistan's State Committee for Religious Affairs said Friday the country has more mosques than schools.
Mavlon Mukhtorov said official figures show there are 3,425 regular mosques, 344 cathedral mosques, and 40 central cathedral mosques.
Mukhtorov said on February 16 his ministry issued permits for 45 new mosques to be built in different parts of the country.
Tajikistan's Education Ministry reports there are 3,793 schools, most of them overcrowded, and in many cases one classroom has up to 40 students.[16]
February 2012
[edit]Turkey
Pollster Adil Gür of A&G polling company interviewed 3,252 women in 42 provinces across Turkey on the subject of gender-based violence, ntvmsnbc.com reported on Friday.
. . .
Ten out of every 100 women in Turkey over the age of 18 are illiterate. Approximately 30 percent of women surveyed graduated from high school, and only 9 percent have a college degree. Twenty out of every 100 women over the age of 44 are illiterate.[17]
March 2012
Moroğlu [the head of the Turkish Association of University Women (TÜKD)] stated that only 2 percent of women have access to a university education, which is far below EU standards. She further stated that every two out of 10 women are still illiterate in Turkey.[18]
November 2012
[edit]United Kingdom
In 2004 a third (33 per cent) of Muslims of working age in Great Britain had no qualifications – the highest proportion for any religious group. They were also the least likely to have degrees or equivalent qualifications (12 per cent).[19]
People of working age with no qualifications2004.gif
People of working age with no qualifications: by religion, 2004, GB
February 2006
[edit]United States
[According to a Gallup Institute study involving 300,000 people] The majority of Muslims in USA ... are less educated ... than the population as a whole.[20]
March 2009
[edit]Yemen
A shocking 65% of married Yemeni women aged between 15 and 24 are illiterate
According to the Multiple Indicators Cluster Survey (MICS) conducted by Ministry of Public Health and Population in September 2006....illiteracy among mothers, the health ministry’s survey shows that on average 35 percent of married Yemeni women aged between 15 and 24 are literate, with 59 percent of married women in urban areas and 26 percent of married women in rural areas being able to read and write.[21]"

You cannot explain why the cost of living and purchasing power of families who live in countries with scant water and scant space and scant resources is higher than it is in America.

I've explained it over and over but you won't give credit for the previously goat herding, camel riding, ignorant and unlearned muslims who are now enjoying the highest standard of living they've ever experienced (even though they're still far behind the industrial nations of the world).

Americans. The West. That's the reason there's a financial windfall for the middle east. The goat hearders and camel riders would still be measuring their wealth by the size of their goat herd and bragging on who had the fastest camel if it had not been for their saviors from poverty, the western powers, especially America.

You still haven't paid homage to America and it's role in developing a wasteland into a place that flows in milk and money.

This is my experience: Thousands and thousands of American resumes come across desks in Muslim countries from Americans who are looking for better jobs and better places to live with their families. Very few are selected. I was there and I got the opportunity to personally vet and round-file those resumes in batches by the hundreds. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Dhahran, and Doha are full of Americans and American families and those Americans have to be FORCED to retire at 60 so that they will go home. What are they doing there and why are they trying to go there if it is "so great" where they are Oh Learned One?

They're there because of the high paying jobs that's available due to the backwardness and ignorant of the typical muslim in the area. America came to the rescue but since ignorance and oppression abounds in the muslim middle east, there are no locals to step up and manage what the west, especially the Americans, developed. If the western powers were to leave today, the production output of oil in the muslim countries would quickly drop dramatically. Muslims are great at one thing really. Religious nutiness and showing the world they're the most violent religion on the face of the earth.

In America, there are large muslim communities fueled by immigration. Muslims in the middle east are frantic to move to a country where there is freedom, opportunity and, for the women, less oppression.

Tex, tell us about those large American Christian communities fueled by emigration from America. Where are they located in the middle east?