Prayer by Verbal Bean

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

What does it mean to be tempted? Was it an internal mechanism within Him attempting to draw Him away after His own lusts?

Or was it an external, spiritual attack to get Him to fall, beginning with the 40 day fast in the desert all the way to Calvary?

Good question. Satan is called the "tempter" for a reason.

[Michael The Disciple]

So what did Verbal Bean teach about PRAYER? Anything specific?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by diakonos

He believed that you can speak things into existence

p. 114

Nothing wrong with that.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So what did Verbal Bean teach about PRAYER? Anything specific?

He said the old timers believed if you didn’t pray for 3 hours a day you were lost! He believes if you don’t pray for an hour a day, your lost!

It’s tight, but it’s right....

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

He said the old timers believed if you didn’t pray for 3 hours a day you were lost! He believes if you don’t pray for an hour a day, your lost!

It’s tight, but it’s right....

Now we are getting into some standards!

[Michael The Disciple]

Short message on prayer by me from 8 years ago.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Nothing wrong with that.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

He said the old timers believed if you didn’t pray for 3 hours a day you were lost! He believes if you don’t pray for an hour a day, your lost!

It’s tight, but it’s right....

What text did he give that supports if one doesn't pray a hour a day he is lost?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

He said the old timers believed if you didn’t pray for 3 hours a day you were lost! He believes if you don’t pray for an hour a day, your lost!

It’s tight, but it’s right....

Originally Posted by hometown guy

No it had nothing to do with the “ spirit realm “ that would be offensive to some it had to do with preaching against sin. He would preach on getting rid of your television, not paying tithes, getting rid of board ran churches ect... that’s why he would not be excepted. I have to elders I know that set under him and told me this. Plus he preached for a lot of the churches we fellowship out here in California.

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Well, no preacher is without error.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by diakonos

It has been an interesting read. Different perspective. Not too bad. But something jumped out that I take issue with. Verbal Bean stated that he believed Jesus was tempted to fornicate. I find the notion rather blasphemous.

I do not believe that being tempted in like manner means that Jesus was tempted with EVERY SPECIFIC THING that people deal with. If tempted to fornicate, was He tempted to steal? Lie? Kill?

Other than that, no real objections to VB’s commentary. I’m bout half way through.

I don’t believe the temptation was an internal conflict. Perhaps the devil tempted Jesus with fornication or any other sin common to man, that doesn’t mean Jesus desired those things. I read the same thing and was a bit taken back when I read it. I wish he would have expounded a little more on what he meant by temptation. There is a debate in some circles as to whether or not it would have even been possible for Jesus to sin.