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Old 11-02-2009, 11:25 AM
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Si usted está en este país sin los papeles correctos, levante por favor su mano así que podemos conseguirle el transporte de nuevo a su país de orígen.
If you are in this country without the correct papers, raises his hand please so we can secure the transport again to its country of origin.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:26 AM
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Teddy also said that if an immigrant refused to learn the language within 5 years they should be thrown out.

Teddy had some good points about immigrants.
Just some thoughts after reading the above post. What language? English?
Why is it that England gets preference as being the superior language?

I am of Acadian culture and it forbidden for our ancestors to speak our their language in school.

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/acadians.html

http://acim.umfk.maine.edu/language.html

I have lately been working on Spanish and its a joy to be able to finally
converse with another part of the population and world. I think
its a closed mindset that considers that America is only English speaking.
I think of the countless numbers of African Americans who have never
known the mother tongue of their people. Many do not even know which
area or tribe they hailed from. I was in Nigeria earlier this year and my husband bought me a Yoruba/English KJV. During our time there I made it my point to learn some of their phrases. They were very excited that I would
even attempt it.
I want to say that I am glad I have some sort of culture to pass along to my children and a language as well. It would be a boring world if we were all a like.
When working with the Greek text it is such a joy to be able to recognize words and be able to tell the true meaning of scripture and the feeling
and emotion that is involved in it concerning the cultural aspects. Sure I
had to put my efforts into learning Biblical Greek but its worth it.

I don't think everyone should bring their personal prejudices into America
because we all strive to accept the differences of another as long as they
don't infringe on our own freedoms.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:37 AM
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Just some thoughts after reading the above post. What language? English?
Why is it that England gets preference as being the superior language?

I am of Acadian culture and it forbidden for our ancestors to speak our their language in school.

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/acadians.html

http://acim.umfk.maine.edu/language.html

I have lately been working on Spanish and its a joy to be able to finally
converse with another part of the population and world. I think
its a closed mindset that considers that America is only English speaking.
I think of the countless numbers of African Americans who have never
known the mother tongue of their people. Many do not even know which
area or tribe they hailed from. I was in Nigeria earlier this year and my husband bought me a Yoruba/English KJV. During our time there I made it my point to learn some of their phrases. They were very excited that I would
even attempt it.
I want to say that I am glad I have some sort of culture to pass along to my children and a language as well. It would be a boring world if we were all a like.
When working with the Greek text it is such a joy to be able to recognize words and be able to tell the true meaning of scripture and the feeling
and emotion that is involved in it concerning the cultural aspects. Sure I
had to put my efforts into learning Biblical Greek but its worth it.

I don't think everyone should bring their personal prejudices into America
because we all strive to accept the differences of another as long as they
don't infringe on our own freedoms.
Love and respect Mexico and Mexicans. Here is a school that teaches Spanish to all kinds of American Missionaries to mexico.

http://www.riogrande.edu/

Go there and harvest souls.



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Old 11-02-2009, 11:47 AM
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If you are in this country without the correct papers, raises his hand please so we can secure the transport again to its country of origin.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:30 PM
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When did this become a crime?

Jumping our fences is a crime in case the two have become confusing.

And I don't believe we would have to become a police state to enforce our laws.
How do you suggest we find millions of illegal immigrants?
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:34 PM
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How do you suggest we find millions of illegal immigrants?
When the police stop them for traffic stops, when they apply for a job without the proper creditials, when they try and rent/buy property, etc.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:06 PM
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When the police stop them for traffic stops, when they apply for a job without the proper creditials, when they try and rent/buy property, etc.
Sounds easy doesn't it?

Illegals don't always get pulled over... but this might catch a few.

When Illegals seek a job it's typically private and under the table. Few would apply at the airport where I work because our background checks would catch them quickly. But some might be dumb enough to try to get a job that requires a back ground check... this might catch a few more.

Most of the time they don't buy houses, but land contract deals might catch a few. Most of the time the illegals I know rent from people who rent to them freely or rent to a legal party while the illegals stay with them.

What do you do to catch the millions more who are not rounded up? You've got a lot more work to do. How do you plan to do it?
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:09 PM
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What if by doing so you ruined their chance of finding God here in our country. Did you ever think that God may be sending the Missionary field to us?

I do not recant this.

If I am made aware of an illegal immigrant who is NOT a part of the Body of Christ, I will do all that I can to help law enforcement deport him.



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Sounds easy doesn't it?

Illegals don't always get pulled over... but this might catch a few.

When Illegals seek a job it's typically private and under the table. Few would apply at the airport where I work because our background checks would catch them quickly. But some might be dumb enough to try to get a job that requires a back ground check... this might catch a few more.

Most of the time they don't buy houses, but land contract deals might catch a few. Most of the time the illegals I know rent from people who rent to them freely or rent to a legal party while the illegals stay with them.

What do you do to catch the millions more who are not rounded up? You've got a lot more work to do. How do you plan to do it?
Could always make the penalty for giving them work sooo strict that anyone who gave them work would get fined mucho if caught. Make people afraid of what might happen if they get caught giving them jobs.
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Could always make the penalty for giving them work sooo strict that anyone who gave them work would get fined mucho if caught. Make people afraid of what might happen if they get caught giving them jobs.
I agree with this.


What will America do when two generations from now, when today's illegal alien workers are wiser to our legal system and the legal ramifiations involved in companies and individuals "employing" these folks at less than minimum wage, or employing them at rates that do not come close to what they should rightfully earn for their skills-- what will we do if someone decides to make a reparations argument?


Everyone knows what's going on, but our government isn't doing enough to stop it.

So our government is allowing this injustice to occur everyday, and most Americans turn a blind eye because we have our own lives to tend to.


The argument could be made, especially if the argument is made one or two generations after the injustice instead of 150 years or longer.



Our governement needs to make bold steps in one direction or the other in order to stop this problem from getting worse-- and it can get much, much worse.
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