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Old 07-26-2008, 10:06 PM
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Well, I'll be the first to admit that I am not all that well versed in the doctrines of William Branham, but I have read and heard enough to know that the guy was off his rocker. If you took his church and shook it up you would wind up with Assorted Nuts!
Sir, respectfully I take great offense to those words spoken out of ignorance (by your own admission) as I am part of that church.......

it's amazing to me that you guys on this board revere men like SC Johnson because he preached the right baptism and the right Godhead but he was off on some non essentials.. and yet with William Branham you can't do the same thing.. it's hypocrisy in the truest form

I know many people who say the same things about the ONENESS CULTS and the horrible things they say you guys believe, they only repeat what theyve heard with no real study on their part... its sad how each group does the same things
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:08 PM
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He is a UPC Pastor thank you very much

HIS family all left the UPC and became Branhamites

THEY are the Nut Cases !
Misunderstood you.. soooo sorry.. I meant anyone who believes those things believed absolutely contrary to Bro. Branhams teachings
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:09 PM
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Mike,

most of what he said is exactly as he said it - they
have hundreds of his tapes. in fact, most of the Branham
churches ONLY listen to his messages. when they go to
church, they all sit and listen to his tapes. He is the last
prophet to the church.

I use to spend christmas with my Bro in laws. They were
ALL Branhamites and Believed some of most Crrrrraziest
doctrine I have ever heard of in my life!!! They would
bring these tapes and give them out as Cmas presents
(witnessing tools).

they told us out of THEIR mouths that all one had to do
to be saved was "Believe the Prophet" . That told me that
Salvation was in Branham and not Jesus
I've preached in over 30 of those churches and not ONE listens to tapes
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:11 PM
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Misunderstood you.. soooo sorry.. I meant anyone who believes those things believed absolutely contrary to Bro. Branhams teachings


Okay Thanks

I know that there are variations of Branham believers
but most of them do believe that he was Elijah the Prophet
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:12 PM
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I've preached in over 30 of those churches and not ONE listens to tapes


There are MANY that do! A lot in AZ.

I really think you know that - you have to
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:12 PM
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Sir, respectfully I take great offense to those words spoken out of ignorance (by your own admission) as I am part of that church.......

it's amazing to me that you guys on this board revere men like SC Johnson because he preached the right baptism and the right Godhead but he was off on some non essentials.. and yet with William Branham you can't do the same thing.. it's hypocrisy in the truest form

I know many people who say the same things about the ONENESS CULTS and the horrible things they say you guys believe, they only repeat what theyve heard with no real study on their part... its sad how each group does the same things
I sincerely apologize for the offense... It is not my goal to offend anyone and I truly do not want to wound or offend you. However, you've never seen me defending anyone such as SC Johnson, because I don't agree with him either. No sir, I'm not defending any of these folks, so you will not find hypocrisy there Sir.
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:14 PM
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There are MANY that do! A lot in AZ.

I really think you know that - you have to
Now that I do know. I actually watched a video on VHS of a service at a church in Arizona. The preacher was William Branham and it was an audio recording. I thought, "Why did they video tape it". It was strange...
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Sir, there was no serpent in the form we know of it until after the fall

Let me just ask you dear brother... what was God saying here?

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Now we know her seed was a literal child.... the holy child Jesus
Who was the Serpents Seed or child?

The answer is in the NT if you care to look for it.. oh never mind

Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one
Original word here for "of" is EK which means :OUT OF

Cain came OUT OF that Wicked One

but wait now.. who is that Wicked One? Maybe it was Adam

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth [it] not, then cometh the wicked [one], and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

So now we know that CAIN came OUT OF the WICKED ONE.. we now know that the WICKED ONE is Satan

and we know that Satans children or offsrping would be at enmity with her offspring..... we know that Satan offered her fruit... we know what fruit means in the scriptures.. he beguiled her......

Oh and yes Jesus tells us that Satan was a MURDERER from the BEGINNING and you will never guess what Cain was......
Brother Vaughn I like a lot of your posts on this forum and you seem like a nice, intelligent guy. I don't mean this disrespectful, but that is nothing more than heresy. You claim that Cain "came out of the evil one", but that contradicts scripture.

Genesis 4:1 states, "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD,". Are you challenging the infallable, inerrant word of God? Scripture is as plain as it could possibly be on this subject.
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:19 PM
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Now that I do know. I actually watched a video on VHS of a service at a church in Arizona. The preacher was William Branham and it was an audio recording. I thought, "Why did they video tape it". It was strange...


It really is true. I've talked to many who have connections
to this group. There is a man I talked to from AZ. who owns
a Bus company and buses several hundred of them every year
to Braham's grave in Loiusville, KY ( or someplace near).

They take a pilgrimage to his grave because they believe he
is going to ressurect like Christ did
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:29 PM
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Brother Vaughn I like a lot of your posts on this forum and you seem like a nice, intelligent guy. I don't mean this disrespectful, but that is nothing more than heresy. You claim that Cain "came out of the evil one", but that contradicts scripture.

Genesis 4:1 states, "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD,". Are you challenging the infallable, inerrant word of God? Scripture is as plain as it could possibly be on this subject.
I didnt claim CAIN came out of that Evil one .. The APOSTLES said he did.. now who is contradicting the WORD?

I JOHN 3:12
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