Friend or Foe?

[RachelRose]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I would not break fellowship over that, or some of the varieties of Eschatology. There are some things that I would though, like serpent seed.

This thread is really departing from my interest in Clinton...

ok, I have to ask, what is "serpent seed?"

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

This thread is really departing from my interest in Clinton...

ok, I have to ask, what is "serpent seed?"

The serpent seed doctrine teaches that the sin of Eve was not simple disobedience, but sexual contact with the serpent, and that Cain was the son of Eve and the devil. Cain’s descendants are, according to this idea, the sons of Satan, and this includes most any race or group that the serpent-seed believer chooses to dislike.

[RachelRose]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The serpent seed doctrine teaches that the sin of Eve was not simple disobedience, but sexual contact with the serpent, and that Cain was the son of Eve and the devil. Cain’s descendants are, according to this idea, the sons of Satan, and this includes most any race or group that the serpent-seed believer chooses to dislike.

Oh my! I had never heard of that. Speaking as a lady that is really gross!

[thephnxman]

His NAME is Jesus!

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So do you think being born again is a distinct experience from being born of water and Spirit?

Of course!

Brother Villa

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

His NAME is Jesus!



Of course!

Brother Villa

Can a person be born of water and Spirit and yet NOT be "born again"?

Also, can you please show how the Bible makes a distinction between the following:

new birth
regeneration
born again
born from above
begotten of the will of God
born or begotten of God
born again by the Word of God
born of the water and the Spirit
born of the Spirit

[thephnxman]

His NAME is Jesus!

Originally Posted by Esaias

(1) -- Can a person be born of water and Spirit and yet NOT be "born again"?

(2) -- Also, can you please show how the Bible makes a distinction between the following:
new birth; regeneration; born again; born from above; begotten of the will of God; born or begotten of God;
born again by the Word of God; born of the water and the Spirit; born of the Spirit

(1) -- NO. Just as conception precludes birth, so does the "born again"
experience preclude the birth of the water and of the Spirit.
(1 Pet 1:23; Jn 1:13; 3:3; complement each other with)

(2) -- Some words/phrases on your list are synonyms: perhaps you should
group the words to distinguish the synonyms from the others: you may find
you will answer your own query!.

Brother Villa

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

His NAME is Jesus!



(1) -- NO. Just as conception precludes birth, so does the "born again"
experience preclude the birth of the water and of the Spirit.
(1 Pet 1:23; Jn 1:13; 3:3; complement each other with)

(2) -- Some words/phrases on your list are synonyms: perhaps you should
group the words to distinguish the synonyms from the others: you may find
you will answer your own query!.

Brother Villa

So are you saying "born again" is to "born of water and Spirit" as conception is to natural birth?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

This thread is really departing from my interest in Clinton...

ok, I have to ask, what is "serpent seed?"

Back to Clinton. He teaches the false and dangerous doctrine of pre trib rapture. Just saw one of his videos about it.

[thephnxman]

His NAME is Jesus!

Originally Posted by Esaias

So are you saying "born again" is to "born of water and Spirit" as conception is to natural birth?

Rule # 3:We live in two realms: a natural realm, and the spiritual realm.
The spiritual realm manifests itself in the natural ream; and the natural realm
testifies of the spiritual realm. They exist parallel one to another, and they can
not contradict each other.

I do not say it: I AGREE with what the scriptures teach.


Brother Villa

[thephnxman]

His NAME is Jesus!

Originally Posted by Esaias

So are you saying "born again" is to "born of water and Spirit" as conception is to natural birth?

You have a quick mind, Beloved.

Brother Villa