Ghost are they real?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Can ghosts procreate if they materialize?

Read 1 Samuel 28

What meaneth this?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Read 1 Samuel 28

What meaneth this?

It means stay away from witches and mediums.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Esaias

It means stay away from witches and mediums.

Yes. I get that part. But was it Samuel?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Read 1 Samuel 28

What meaneth this?

Samuel comes up from the dead. Read it and it tells you who it was. The witch didn't expect it to be Samuel, and therefore she freaks out. Therefore she thoughts she was going to get killed for doing so. Samuel was in a sleep state, because he says he was disquieted, as to be awoke.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Samuel comes up from the dead. Read it and it tells you who it was. The witch didn't expect it to be Samuel, and therefore she freaks out. Therefore she thoughts she was going to get killed for doing so. Samuel was in a sleep state, because he says he was disquieted, as to be awoke.

I asked a preacher about this one time. He said that the witch contacted the familiar spirit of Samuel. I don’t see it that way. It’s seems clear to me that it was Samuel.

[Esther]

I have seen many photos of ghost. What would you say they are? Demons?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Yes. I get that part. But was it Samuel?

No.

Saul saw nothing, the witch was in a trance and acting as the MEDIUM (go between). She thought it was Samuel's ghost or whatever. She, being a medium, was channeling what she believed was Saul. Saul neither heard or saw anything except the witch, exactly like when you visit a medium, channeler, necromancer, psychic, whatever.

Otherwise, if it REALLY WAS SAMUEL, then we got big time major contradictions with the REST OF THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

A witch can raise the dead? Seriously?

Nope, sorry, not happening.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Esther

I have seen many photos of ghost. What would you say they are? Demons?

I've seen videos of radioactive dinosaurs attacking Tokyo and wrestling with giant 100ft tall gorillas, fighting flying giant turtles that shoot laserbeams, running around with two headed dragons, and fighting off the Japanese army.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Esther

I have seen many photos of ghost. What would you say they are? Demons?

I’m no authority. But if there are demons, and we believe in them, shouldn’t there be spirits that aren’t demons. Was Samuel’s spirit a demon?

What about Casper?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

No.

Saul saw nothing, the witch was in a trance and acting as the MEDIUM (go between). She thought it was Samuel's ghost or whatever. She, being a medium, was channeling what she believed was Saul. Saul neither heard or saw anything except the witch, exactly like when you visit a medium, channeler, necromancer, psychic, whatever.

Otherwise, if it REALLY WAS SAMUEL, then we got big time major contradictions with the REST OF THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

A witch can raise the dead? Seriously?

Nope, sorry, not happening.

No contradiction, they were all sleeping, Samuel was awakened prematurely. Hence he asking "why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up?" The witch of Endor had no power, and bringing people up from the dead was possible by soothsayers. But Saul enforces the law on one day, and then breaks it on another day. Samuel was allowed to speak judgement on the law breaker king. God was no longer talking to Saul, not by any means. But the icing on the cake was going to the witch and having Samuel tell Saul what Saul already knew.