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11-13-2014, 02:18 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
I have stopped gathering data until I could organize the data I already have.
Lydia Swinton who ran a mission in Stockton is nearly done.
William Manley is the person who has the most data available. I have data for almost every period of his life.
Harry Morse, the real focus, is a bit evasive. I have his timeline down. I know who preached at his church. I know more about his churches than I do about him. I am close to getting my hands on a class notebook one of his students had. Hopefully, that will help understand his thinking.
I contacted the present pastor of Frank Ewarts church in Los Angeles. He knew very little about Ewart and had no documents about him. Despite the fact that Ewart founded that church.
The PAW has no archive. The UPC and the AG archives are very helpful, but have little data about Morse.
That is your update.
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11-19-2014, 05:53 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
William Gorham wrote a letter to the Household of God magazine. He said that on Sept 17, 1907 there was a Pentecostal camp meeting in Stockton, California.No other names are mentioned in the letter.
Who is William Gorham ? This would probably be the first Pentecostal meeting of any kind in Stockton.
Any leads ??
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12-17-2014, 08:07 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
The "Apostolic Faith Church" was a collection of mainly southern churches that were connected by Charles Parham. By 1950, there were about 50 churches in the group.
One was in Stockton. The pastor was Lee Brock. In Jan of 1951, Pauline Parham, the stepdaughter of Charles Parham, preached a revival in the Stockton church.
It looks like they were trinitarian in theology. They also taught the annihilation of the wicked, as did Harry Morse.
So Bartleman preached in Stockton(1906) just prior to moving to Los Angeles. Morse brings Pentecost(1906) with him to Stockton. Parma's stepdaughter(1951) preaches in Stockton.
I never knew of the Azuza connections to Stockton.
In 1957 the "Apostolic Movement in the name of Jesus Christ" had a church in Stockton. I do not know who they were. They were only there 2 years. But a church with the same name still meets in San Jose. I will be calling them today.
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12-26-2014, 12:50 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
I have 3 documents ready for review:
Biography of Harry Morse from birth until 1915
Biography of Lydia Swinton
Roster of students from the Morse Mission Home in Oakland
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12-31-2014, 04:03 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
I found a person who was a youngster at the Big Downtown Mission. Hopefully, she will have some stories and pictures. More than anything, I need to understand the theology of Harry Morse. I really don't have much to go on.
Happy New Year !!!
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01-01-2015, 02:46 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Enjoy your research and posts. Happy New Year.
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01-01-2015, 03:31 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
If Elder Clyde Haney was one of Morse's boys, and he followed after his teachings. I have an old tape of Elder Haney preaching strong Acts 2:38, and Holiness standards that are as stout as any and more than most.
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01-01-2015, 04:26 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Morse did not leave much writing behind for me to read. Understanding what he believed is hard to say the least. He believed in "social purity" and he was a sabbath keeper. He had a lot of women preachers at his church and teaching at the school. He worked with other churches for evangelistic meetings. He was in several different organizations. His friends were lifelong.
Hopefully, I will get my hands on a students notebook from the theology classes. One of the witnesses found theirs.
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01-03-2015, 12:38 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Social Purity was also called marital purity. It began in Texas around 1895. BH Irwin and others promoted it. Irwin found his way to the Azuza Street Mission and then for a short period to Oakland (in 1907). In 1909 Irwin was back in Los Angeles and then faded away from history.
How Harry Morse and Lydia Swinton learned of the social purity doctrine, I do not know. They did not spend any time in Texas. Irwin or someone else must have brought it to California.
Who else promoted the social purity doctrine. It taught that married couples were to remain celebrate.
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01-03-2015, 03:12 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta
Social Purity was also called marital purity. It began in Texas around 1895. BH Irwin and others promoted it. Irwin found his way to the Azuza Street Mission and then for a short period to Oakland (in 1907). In 1909 Irwin was back in Los Angeles and then faded away from history.
How Harry Morse and Lydia Swinton learned of the social purity doctrine, I do not know. They did not spend any time in Texas. Irwin or someone else must have brought it to California.
Who else promoted the social purity doctrine. It taught that married couples were to remain celebrate.
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The movement called the School of Prophets whose founder was William Sowders taught social purity.
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