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Old 09-24-2018, 03:37 PM
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What about the demons cast out by trinitarian preachers?
I have cast them out in the name of Yeshua.
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I have cast them out in the name of Yeshua.
Thank you Jesus that we don't measure truth by lying signs and wonders.
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What about the demons cast out by trinitarian preachers?
All Trinitarians I ever heard of casting out devils did it in Jesus name.
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Thank you Jesus that we don't measure truth by lying signs and wonders.
So if a Jewish Oneness believer cast out demons in the name of Yeshua would you consider that a lying sign and wonder?
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Thank you Jesus that we don't measure truth by lying signs and wonders.
Come on, that was brutal.
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So if a Jewish Oneness believer cast out demons in the name of Yeshua would you consider that a lying sign and wonder?
Are you a Jewish or Israeli Oneness believer? Would you call Jesus by this נקניקיה

Mike your first language is English, end of story. You use the name Yeshua for totally different reasons. If He was called Yeshua, they sure missed it in the New Testament and the LXX. Not one book of the New Testament was originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic. 2,000 years they called Him Jesus, and the whole Hebrew roots movement is Judaizing not a use of a birth language. Your use of Yah, Yahweh, Yeshua, Yahshua, are ridiculous, when you can't speak Hebrew or Aramaic. I was with some individuals who were casting out devils and they used the name of Yeshua. The demon possessed teenager started to mock them in Yiddish. Then in Hebrew, making inappropriate hand gestures. Then in Arabic.

An older brother I was with walked over to the teenanger and said the Lord rebuke you in Jesus name. The teenager feel to her knees, crying, then repenting. Finally speaking in tongues. The old Spanish brother said to me later that night. They use a name because of a look, a fashion, for a style. It isn't even like saying Jesus in Spanish when you don't know Spanish. These people want to worship ethnicity of the Christ. Their focus is sounding like something when that something isn't even important. For believing themselves to be wise they became fools.
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Come on, that was brutal.
Obviously not to him.
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Most scholars realize that classical biblical Hebrew is a dead language. The original was written in Paleo Hebrew script with consonants not being integrated until around 6 BC. Hebrew in ancient times was written and read up through the latter part of the first millennium AD without vowel pointing. When exiled in to Babylon the Masoretes started to integrate the Aramaic script or square script. Masoretes introduced the niqqud vowel pointing; trying to preserve their pronunciation and interpretive tradition, but vowel points are not original. Nobody knows how Paleo Hebrew was pronounced and vowel pointing has been proven suspect. Modern Hebrew has basteridzed even the Masoretic vowel pointing. By incorporating Slavic, Aramaic, Sephardic and Yiddish this revived language is not even close to the original Hebrew.

“Since Ben-Yehuda and other early revivalists spoke only broken Hebrew, their grammar, while reflecting (Late) Biblical Hebrew, also exhibited significant aspects of Yiddish, Russian, Lithuanian and sometimes even German and French. And in most cases the revivalists were probably not even aware of this grammar mixing, much the same way that people who speak a foreign language often unknowingly make mistakes based on the grammar of their native language.”

These modern Hebrew variations of Jesus come from Jeshua the High Priest in the Old Testament. The mongrelizing Masoretic niqqud vowel points are being used for the modern Hebrew names for Jesus. Yeshua (ישוע‬), Yeshu (ישו‬) Yehoshua (יְהוֹשֻׁעַ). But the names keep coming with Yahusha, Yahushua, Yahuwshuwa and I am sure there will be more. These names are a modern creation using Masoretic scripts and niqqud vowel points to cause division in the church. The name Yeshua; and Modern Hebrew, is extensively used by followers of Messianic Judaism. Coincidence? Zephaniah prophesied of a pure language. So those who clamor about the Greek language being pagan cannot call modern Hebrew a pure language.

Zephaniah 3:9 (KJV) For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

I would ask these wayward Hebrew linguists why Greek Iesous; and English Jesus, the most recognized through all nations for our Savior? Why have people been healed in the name of Jesus? Because from a historical perspective the name Yeshua does not match the prophecy of Matthew.

Matthew 12:21 (KJV) And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

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I was with some individuals who were casting out devils and they used the name of Yeshua. The demon possessed teenager started to mock them in Yiddish. Then in Hebrew, making inappropriate hand gestures. Then in Arabic.

An older brother I was with walked over to the teenanger and said the Lord rebuke you in Jesus name. The teenager feel to her knees, crying, then repenting. Finally speaking in tongues. The old Spanish brother said to me later that night. They use a name because of a look, a fashion, for a style. It isn't even like saying Jesus in Spanish when you don't know Spanish. These people want to worship ethnicity of the Christ. Their focus is sounding like something when that something isn't even important. For believing themselves to be wise they became fools.
Wow!
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MTD,

You haven’t cast out devils since the 70’s, correct?
So, you were a “Yeshua” guy back then?
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