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Old 02-20-2018, 07:17 PM
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Bro, you go to a UPCI church?
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Bro, you go to a UPCI tithe, rapture ready church?
First I want you to know I love you. I consider you a friend.
I understand your position and why you are at a UPC and don't lay fault to you being there. The only thing I liked to point out here is one, no one is required to complete the affirmation statement (to my knowledge) two, you have your own laundry list of beliefs that don't mesh with the rest of the org, some I would think you would walk gently. Also if the pastor is a good man, then let him continue in being a good man, and help the good man.
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First I want you to know I love you. I consider you a friend.
I understand your position and why you are at a UPC and don't lay fault to you being there. The only thing I liked to point out here is one, no one is required to complete the affirmation statement (to my knowledge) two, you have your own laundry list of beliefs that don't mesh with the rest of the org, some I would think you would walk gently. Also if the pastor is a good man, then let him continue in being a good man, and help the good man.


I was hoping you would give some.input. He knows I believe in fulfilled eschataology and doesn't hold it against since i don't disrupt the church over it.


I'm pretty sure the AF is required.
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First I want you to know I love you. I consider you a friend.
I understand your position and why you are at a UPC and don't lay fault to you being there. The only thing I liked to point out here is one, no one is required to complete the affirmation statement (to my knowledge) two, you have your own laundry list of beliefs that don't mesh with the rest of the org, some I would think you would walk gently. Also if the pastor is a good man, then let him continue in being a good man, and help the good man.
I don't know TS from Adam's house cat. My problem is with TS or anyone bringing their gripe about their pastor here.

Just one old lady's opinion...
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I don't know TS from Adam's house cat. My problem is with TS or anyone bringing their gripe about their pastor here.

Just one old lady's opinion...


It's not so much a personal gripe with him. We met at church for morning prayer today. It's mainly the thought of our church in upc but doesn't follow the aof but signs an afs saying they will. I've been wondering how that works, brought it up here for input because I could be looking at it wrong.
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It's not so much a personal gripe with him. We met at church for morning prayer today. It's mainly the thought of our church in upc but doesn't follow the aof but signs an afs saying they will. I've been wondering how that works, brought it up here for input because I could be looking at it wrong.

Hmmmm...Well, this is what you posted on page 3...


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Wondering why our church reamins in upc when they have TV, go to theaters and sports, isn't that dishonest?


So referring to the local shepherd as "dishonest" is not a gripe? Interesting...
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Re: Current UPC article of faith and TV/theaters??

It has become impossible to take a stand against, and ban all technology, therefore instead the AF teaches the principle of responsible use in accordance with Christian principles.

Media and Technology:

Our elders took an important, principled, and correct stand against the evils of television in 1954 when the adopted the fourth paragraph on holiness in our Articles of Faith in response to the invention of television and other changes in society. It follows that we need to enunciate the principles upon which our elders acted and apply them in light of technological changes and more complex choices today. Specifically, traditional television is now merging with other technologies that we have accepted, such as computers, online media, satellite and cable deliveries, media players, smart phones, tablets, and game consoles.

Therefore, we must give appropriate guidance to a new generation of believers with regard to all use of communications technology in language that is understandable and meaningful to them so we can continue to uphold our position on holiness of life and holiness in the use of all communications technology. In voice of the nature of media and our movement, we must be careful not to signal any compromise of believe or lifestyle.
The United Pentecostal Church International accepts only the Bible and the Holy Spirit as its guides to determine the correct standards of conduct in this world, and it recognizes the responsibility to apply biblical principles in a changing world. Neither the Bible nor the United Pentecostal Church International teaches that salvation can be earned by good works, but both contend that holiness in behavior results from a transforming experience of the Holy Ghost, and is therefore incumbent upon each Christian. The church has an obligation to establish standards of conduct when necessary, but it refuses to make rules for every aspect of daily living. Each Christian is responsible to God to maintain holiness in his or her life, for God alone is the judge, but the church is also responsible to teach biblical standards of holiness. Holiness as a spiritual experience and a way of life is not an option for a Christian, but a biblical injunction (II Cor 7:1; Romans 12:1-1; John 17:14-16; I John 2:15-16; Ephesians 5:11).

It is very evident that spirituality and holiness are deeply entwined together. The Scriptures teach that carnality is enmity toward God. The use of media must therefore be carefully considered so that we do not take the beautiful truths of God unto areas that will contribute to the downfall of a child of God. The influence of sinful media programming is so grave and damaging to Christian living that conscience demands it be battled in a principled way. The biblical safeguard against rapid cultural or technological change is to build upon timeless principles. Scripture elegantly solves the proper management of media technology with a single verse: “I will set no wicked thing before mine eye . . .: (Psalm 101:3). A consistent and principled position on media programming does not constitute a threat to our core stand on issues of separation from the world, but only strengthens our position by casting in principle the manner in which we are already solving this issue in practice.

Historic guidelines regarding television and video were written in light of the technology of the 1950s and 1980s, demonstrating a common desire for the homes of our families to be sanctuaries governed by Godly principles. In today’s world, we apply the guidelines as follows. We recognize that similar content is available through mediums such as computers, online media, media players, tablets, smart phones, and game consoles. What we have traditionally called television is merging with other devices that are commonly used. Therefore, in these cases and with all other communications technology, we teach responsible use that is strictly in accord with wholesome Christian principles. As new media appear in the marketplace, the Christian must not accept their usage without evaluation of their impact on his or her spiritual walk with God. We are to “walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, redeeming the time, because the days are evil” (Ephesians 5;15-56).

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Article VII Section 7, para 29 of the General Constitution reads:

The use of all media technology must strictly be limited to educational, religious, inspirational, and family content that is consistent with wholesome Christian principles. No minister shall use television or other media technology for the purpose of viewing worldly, carnal, and unwholesome media; endeavoring to maintain a Godly atmosphere and influence in their lives.



http://www.pentecostalsofdadeville.c...upcimanual.pdf

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Re: Current UPC article of faith and TV/theaters??

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I know in the past these things violated the AOF, but what about to day? It's been said with all the new technology, such as cell phones and internet, that it's been amended so now watching TV isn't a violation? What about going to theaters, is that still a violation?
the AF has been modified as follows:

Article VII Section 7, para 29 of the General Constitution reads:

The use of all media technology must strictly be limited to educational, religious, inspirational, and family content that is consistent with wholesome Christian principles. No minister shall use television or other media technology for the purpose of viewing worldly, carnal, and unwholesome media; endeavoring to maintain a Godly atmosphere and influence in their lives.



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Re: Current UPC article of faith and TV/theaters??

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the AF has been modified as follows:

Article VII Section 7, para 29 of the General Constitution reads:

The use of all media technology must strictly be limited to educational, religious, inspirational, and family content that is consistent with wholesome Christian principles. No minister shall use television or other media technology for the purpose of viewing worldly, carnal, and unwholesome media; endeavoring to maintain a Godly atmosphere and influence in their lives.



http://www.pentecostalsofdadeville.c...upcimanual.pdf
So in other words, watching TBN is okay!

IMO that paragraph is still not a ban on TV or even theaters.
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So in other words, watching TBN is okay!

IMO that paragraph is still not a ban on TV or even theaters.
right, its is saying to use media responsibly, in accordance with Godly conduct.
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