Elder C.M.Wright

[Amanah]

This is a must watch message

https://youtu.be/hvTkbad989A

[Michael The Disciple]

Pretty serious stuff.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Amanah

This is a must watch message

https://youtu.be/hvTkbad989A

Why? You have to give me a little more before I spend time clicking on the link and watching.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by CC1

Why? You have to give me a little more before I spend time clicking on the link and watching.

He makes the case for discipleship through small groups such as exemplified by the early church where they met daily in the temple and also house to house. It allows the church to continue meeting even though times of prosecution or possibly a pandemic when meeting in larger groups might be prohibited.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Amanah

He makes the case for discipleship through small groups such as exemplified by the early church where they met daily in the temple and also house to house. It allows the church to continue meeting even though times of prosecution or possibly a pandemic when meeting in larger groups might be prohibited.

Maybe they did it because it was more natural in a relationship vs attendence discipleship model. Maybe this should be the ideal to strive for and not just a "Plan B" when times get tough.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Maybe they did it because it was more natural in a relationship vs attendence discipleship model. Maybe this should be the ideal to strive for and not just a "Plan B" when times get tough.

Yes, but enough people have to step up to the position of Elder to be able to break off in organic growth. There are too many weak pew warmers who spend their time between church services bing watching Netflix and Sports and stuffing their faces to come to any real level of maturity to be entrusted to lead.

[Amanah]

Chester Wright:

DO WE WANT TO “PASTOR” DISCIPLES OF JESUS OR RELIGIOUS “PEW-SITTERS”?

Biblically and by definition a “Disciple of Jesus” is a “taught and trained one, with a personal relationship with HIM.”

Therefore, by definition, it is impossible to make a “disciple” by “preaching.”

Preaching is “proclamation”; teaching is “explanation.”

So, Pastor, if you want “pew-sitters,” just preach to them all the time.

BUT, if you want a church full of Disciples, the ONLY WAY that is going to happen is by you teaching them - A LOT!!!

Yeah, I know, teaching “CULLS” the crowd! That’s why we preach most of the time because we are trying to hang onto the “chaff” (the “ungodly”) that the “taught word” would shift out. BUT, whose Church is it? Jesus’ ministry ALWAYS culled the crowd. He NEVER “closed the back door”!

No, it is not right to “run people off”! That’s not our job! But, IF we teach HIS WORD, then the Word will thresh and winnow the sheaves until ONLY the wheat is left. THAT IS GOD’S PLAN! THAT IS GOD’S WILL!

So, what’s your choice? NO, that’s right, we do not get to have a choice. They are HIS PEOPLE and He wants them to be DISCIPLES! HIS CHOICE is for to TEACH to the saved!

Preach to the lost; teach the saved!

What He told the “rich, young ruler” was spoken out of LOVE (Mark 10:21), yet He knew in advance what the man would do when he heard the Lord’s words! We are NEITHER GOD NOR THE SAVIOR! We MUST please Him, and Him alone

So, are we going to do “our thing”? OR, HIS THING?

[Amanah]

Elder Wright:

WHERE HAS TRUE APOSTOLIC PREACHING GONE TO?

When and how did the desire for eloquence become the substitute for being a conduit of spiritual impartation? (1 Corinthians 1:17-18 AMP)

When did sermonizing oratory become the substitute for being an oracle of God? (Jeremiah 23)

When did a seeking for excellence in pulpitory performance become a facade to mask the lack of the manifestation of God’s power? (1 Corinthians 2:1-5 AMP)

When and how has human persuasiveness replaced the conviction of the Holy Ghost? (Acts 2:36-39)

When did we begin to preach “another gospel” about “another Jesus” promoted by “another spirit” for the purpose of building a crowd or “growing a Church” rather than being men and women “OF GOD”? (Galatians 1:6-7; 2 Corinthians 11:1-4)