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Of course premarital sex isn't okay. There are many reasons to abstain, the most important one being that God objects to premarital sex.

However, I think it's important to note that God punished premarital sex differently than adultery by requiring a marriage and/or payment.

Premarital Sex:

Exodus 22:16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
Exodus 22:17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

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You're very funny, Timmy! Nice job, catching that.

In all seriousness, though, I would consider it a punishment to be forced to marry someone I had sex with because of a lapse in judgment. (Someone I didn't love.)
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You're very funny, Timmy! Nice job, catching that.

In all seriousness, though, I would consider it a punishment to be forced to marry someone I had sex with because of a lapse in judgment. (Someone I didn't love.)
You are almost to my point!!!
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All good points!! But what happens when its a couple in thier 40's or 50's on their 2nd or 3rd marriage?? And I do agree with the sexual society! Do you realize that studies have shown the desire to reproduce is stronger than hunger at points of time in the life cycle? Even without a sexual society (mass media) there will be a stong desire to have sex! The guys in Sodom didnot have TV or Porn to inform them how to cross dress to trick men!!
You don't have to have TV to be a sexualized society. Sodom wasn't focused on reproduction. That wasn't their problem

If two people having been married before, aren't getting what they need, I suggest the problem is not that they not sexually try each other out first.

First of all a couple can discuss these things without having to actually do it, and find out where the other is at and how much the other is willing to grow and learn in that area.
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You are almost to my point!!!
Not really, because I believe we should obey God's laws even when they are inconvenient, and I also believe we can choose to love someone. Love is an action verb. I Corinthians 13

Furthermore, your point is actually negated, since the couple was presumably attracted to one another enough to have sex the first time outside of marriage, so that factor is out of the way. If they already have physical chemistry, all that's left is learning how to have affection for one another.

That said, since we don't live under Mosaic law, I don't agree with forcing young couples to marry because of a mistake anymore than I think we should be stoning those who commit adultery.
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Not really, because I believe we should obey God's laws even when they are inconvenient, and I also believe we can choose to love someone. Love is an action verb. I Corinthians 13

Furthermore, your point is actually negated, since the couple was presumably attracted to one another enough to have sex the first time outside of marriage, so that factor is out of the way. If they already have physical chemistry, all that's left is learning how to have affection for one another.

That said, since we don't live under Mosaic law, I don't agree with forcing young couples to marry because of a mistake anymore than I think we should be stoning those who commit adultery.
....and putting up with their dirty clothes on the floor or her not wanting to cook or adapting to actually living with another person 24/7.
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....and putting up with their dirty clothes on the floor or her not wanting to cook or adapting to actually living with another person 24/7.
Well, sure, but that's the case for people who love one another, too.
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Well, sure, but that's the case for people who love one another, too.
That's true, but love is blind, right?
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