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Old 08-31-2010, 04:54 PM
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Re: Sex Before Marriage: Does God Approve?

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It's just because Charnock came on blasting how terrible AFF is and was met with some resistance. I believe he was reaching out to try and make a point, but it's only proved that we aren't a bunch of heathens as he stated.


It hasn't proved anything. It's shown that there are some folks, who call themselves Pentecostals, who believe it's permissible to sleep around before marriage.

That's not really surprising considering the clientele.
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Mrs Bratty's post are once again on target!

"Choosing" to love someone.

What a concept in a world where we are taught the primary question is our feelings and "falling" in (or out) of "love"!
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It hasn't proved anything. It's shown that there are some folks, who call themselves Pentecostals, who believe it's permissible to sleep around before marriage.

That's not really surprising considering the clientele.
Which folks in particular are you referring to Charnock?
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Crakjak or Aquila should chime in ... they can tell us its wrong but no biggie because no one goes to hell eternally and we're all saved anyway ...
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Immoral sexual behavior produces hellish life situations, but God is still God and restoration is His business. Condemning Pharisees make these situations worst by their lack of wisdom and love for those caught in the immaturity and ignorance of the wages of sin.

How's that Danny Boy? LOL
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It hasn't proved anything. It's shown that there are some folks, who call themselves Pentecostals, who believe it's permissible to sleep around before marriage.

That's not really surprising considering the clientele.
One poster. Come on.
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Which folks in particular are you referring to Charnock?
He's speaking evangelistically - - the only one that alluded to it was allstate and I'm not sure if he claims to be Pentecostal or not.
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He's speaking evangelistically - - the only one that alluded to it was allstate and I'm not sure if he claims to be Pentecostal or not.

Perhaps more importantly...

In spite of all the other hyperbole in this thread, Allstate has also stated he believes it "is sin" in post 398.

"I do believe it is a sin!"
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Perhaps more importantly...

In spite of all the other hyperbole in this thread, Allstate has also stated he believes it "is sin" in post 398.

"I do believe it is a sin!"
Yes, glad you pointed that out.
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I have seen it happen more than just a few times! I do believe it is a sin! The UPC and other conservative orgs. need to have educated counceling for these people and not some beatem down preacher!! Pastors should be required to have several hours of councel education including family,addictions,and grief.
It is the other way around. Counseling professionals need pastorial education. Most secular counsellling is a waste of money. In some cases we see them take 5 sessions and not derive a "presenting problem"

Some people claim depression and we have become a Prozac nation. Under that sometimes a little repenting clears it right up.
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It hasn't proved anything. It's shown that there are some folks, who call themselves Pentecostals, who believe it's permissible to sleep around before marriage.

That's not really surprising considering the clientele.
One Person. Didn't say it was permissible (He said God does not approve), I didn't see him say he is Pentecostal, but maybe he is...you ever hear of a blunderbuster? That's what you got. You might want to trade it in with something that shoots straight and has a scope on it, because not only are you just shooting off like nuts, you are shooting all over the place but in the right direction
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