Sex Before Marriage: Does God Approve?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

still fornication is a sin that what im saying. sex before marriage is sin no matter if you get married the next day. sin is sin. I dont know why this isnt agreed upon. what do you mean there isnt "it wanst for us stuff" if two sixteen year olds fornicate in your church are you going to force them to get married? what if a person commits fornication with someone outside of church are you going to require them to get married? the thought that its not fornication if they get married the next day is not good. its a license for people who want to get married to sin and be forced to marry which is what they want. its still sin outside of the marriage covenant.

I don't have the foggiest idea where I'm losing you? Amanah looks like she understood.

Originally Posted by Amanah

I agree with what you are saying. But, when they slept together, did they in actuality become one flesh? Does God see them as being one flesh?

This is why young people need adult supervision and chaperones, and Dad's who show up at the door to greet you with a shotgun if you come calling on their daughter.

The wasn't for us stuff? Bro, the Bible the apostles used was an Old Testament. They used it all, and all the principles they taught came from that culture. Two little kids weren't supposed to be having sexual relations because their parents were midning them. You have societies still today who still don't use dating. Don't allow young people to mingle. Have prearranged marriages. Who frown heavily upon those who would engage in premarital relations. Saying something is a sin, and not being able to show in the scripture how it is a sin confuses people. I believe as you, I just happen to have more of an explanation that jives with the Bible.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I agree with what you are saying. But, when they slept together, did they in actuality become one flesh? Does God see them as being one flesh?

This is why young people need adult supervision and chaperones, and Dad's who show up at the door to greet you with a shotgun if you come calling on their daughter.

Paul speaks of a man becoming one flesh with a prostitute. Once there has been sexual relations the individuals involved become one flesh.

1 Corinthians 6:16
"Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.”

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

Let me preface by saying I do not condone premarital sex. The reason I said what an ADMIN. posted was funny is because there is a multitude of "sins" that we discuss here on AFF, but this particular administrator threatens to "deal" with anyone who may have a different outlook and want to discuss why on this subject. Now, There is a reason why an old poster "Allstate1" posted what he did. Allstate's wife is a Psychiatrist specializing in family counseling. She has done and is doing research for a book that will entail marriage and the failures of couples "forced" to get married at very young ages. Also research on the failure of marriages in strict religious circles were the couple basically get married so they can have sex. I have been allowed to read through her research and it is startling and eye opening!

Talking about a sin is not the same as promoting it. And since you keep bringing up Allstate1, let's talk about why he/she was banned, this good buddy of yours.

First, in a post in the Marriage Discussion section, Allstate1 claimed to be a woman who, along with her husband, used pornography, role-played with her pretending to be a prostitute, and her husband driving up and propositioning her, and etc. That was a three day ban.

Then, a week later, Allstate1 claims her husband is a vet with PTSD who tried blowing his brains out with a gun, but failed. Then, came on and admitted it was all a lie. So, I kicked her or him or whatever, to the curb, permanently.

So, this mentality of test-drive the car that exists in this thread, but from a long time ago, I am not going to address, from a long time ago, but if it rears up new, I will take care of it.

I knew an Apostolic who took the test drive view of things. She backslid, died lost, orphaned her teenage son who also backslid afterward. Ananias and Sapphira died under the New Covenant, let's recall, so let us beware of what God thinks of premeditated sin, and sin in general and how He might respond, if He's inclined.

[Dante]

Multiple replies here echo, “The bible/God is against it,” or “it’s clearly a sin,” but no one is offering WHY God considers sex before marriage as a transgression.

Sex is a beautiful act between two people who truly love one another whether they are married yet or not. The issue needs to be addressed as to WHY many of you believe the Christian scriptures to condemn sex before marriage instead of just copping out and giving a thoughtless screed “God’s against it!”

[berkeley]

Can we ban this guy?

Originally Posted by Dante

Multiple replies here echo, “The bible/God is against it,” or “it’s clearly a sin,” but no one is offering WHY God considers sex before marriage as a transgression.

Sex is a beautiful act between two people who truly love one another whether they are married yet or not. The issue needs to be addressed as to WHY many of you believe the Christian scriptures to condemn sex before marriage instead of just copping out and giving a thoughtless screed “God’s against it!”

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Dante

Multiple replies here echo, “The bible/God is against it,” or “it’s clearly a sin,” but no one is offering WHY God considers sex before marriage as a transgression.

Sex is a beautiful act between two people who truly love one another whether they are married yet or not. The issue needs to be addressed as to WHY many of you believe the Christian scriptures to condemn sex before marriage instead of just copping out and giving a thoughtless screed “God’s against it!”

It's real simple. Might makes right. God says so, so, 'nuff said.

But if you want to get into all the gnarly details of the dangers and damages that fornication causes people, all that should be quite obvious, and if it's for those reasons God is against it, those are just as good as well.

Sex is a beautiful act between two people who truly love one another whether they are married yet or not.

Where you getting your worldview? Meatloaf's Paradise By The Dashboard Light?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Where you getting your worldview? Meatloaf's Paradise By The Dashboard Light?

Quite frankly the most obnoxious dumbest song of the 1980s.

[Dante]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

It's real simple. Might makes right. God says so, so, 'nuff said.

But if you want to get into all the gnarly details of the dangers and damages that fornication causes people, all that should be quite obvious, and if it's for those reasons God is against it, those are just as good as well.



Where you getting your worldview? Meatloaf's Paradise By The Dashboard Light?

You are confused between fornication and promiscuity. Promiscuity raises risks of danger and damage, but the act of “fornication” itself is harmless.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Dante

You are confused between fornication and promiscuity. Promiscuity raises risks of danger and damage, but the act of “fornication” itself is harmless.

God doesn't believe it is harmless. 2 Corinthians 10:21 “lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, fornication, and lewdness which they have practiced.”

[Dante]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

God doesn't believe it is harmless. 2 Corinthians 10:21 “lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, fornication, and lewdness which they have practiced.”

Fornication is a general term and doesn’t truly address the issue of sex before marriage in this passage. Plus, it still doesn’t explain why God condemns sex before marriage. So, quoting scripture here doesn’t address the issue.