The Manchild Ministry 45 Minutes

[1 God]

The woman is Israel and the man child is Jesus Christ.

[1 God]

Jesus was caught up to his throne as national Israel will be harassed by Satan during the Great Tribulation.

[1 God]

The 144,000 are killed by the devil at the end of chapter 12, and found in heaven in chapter 14.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Sean, did you watch Mr Mike’s video?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I explained it in the video. You did not watch?

Mike it's an hour long. You are hard to listen to, because you are slow. Not mentally, but just communicating your thoughts and reading to your audience. Watch Brother Blume's videos, he is lively, he encourages his audience to get involved. You on the other hand have zero presence. I'm not saying that because of my low respect that I hold for you. Or because I don't like you. In other words, going through your video for an hour is a bit of work. I take only sections at a time, and have to keep going back through the video. If I don't understand something or how you explain a verse. then I have you here to clarify. Is that OK Mr Mike?

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Psalms 18:4

4The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.

Isaiah 59:19

19So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

So, the water coming out of the dragon are soldiers? Are sinners? Are Judaizers? The Government of the United States? The FBI, the ATF?

How does the earth swallow up these men?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Mike it's an hour long. You are hard to listen to, because you are slow. Not mentally, but just communicating your thoughts and reading to your audience. Watch Brother Blume's videos, he is lively, he encourages his audience to get involved. You on the other hand have zero presence. I'm not saying that because of my low respect that I hold for you. Or because I don't like you. In other words, going through your video for an hour is a bit of work. I take only sections at a time, and have to keep going back through the video. If I don't understand something or how you explain a verse. then I have you here to clarify. Is that OK Mr Mike?






So, the water coming out of the dragon are soldiers? Are sinners? Are Judaizers? The Government of the United States? The FBI, the ATF?

How does the earth swallow up these men?

I get the bolded. God made me what I am. I have to deny myself to do videos. I do it not to be seen and praised by men. I do it for the truths sake. On occasion some have said they like my videos. It is what it is.

The earth swallowing up the flood is symbolic of what God can do to his enemies. We are not given to know every detail about everything but in general I would say it might look like this.

Psalms 18: 6-13

6In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.
7Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.
8There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
9He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
10And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.
11He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
12At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
13The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.

The two witnesses maybe bringing forth destruction on them? Turning the light into darkness? Hiding his people in the secret place? Raining hail stones on them? God has various ways to "swallow up" his enemies and help his people.

[Esaias]

Reminder:
The woman in the vision is Israel. Israel consisted of 12 tribes and produced the Messiah Who is to rule all nations with a rod of iron. The dragon attempted to destroy the Messiah beginning at His birth but He ascended to the throne of God in heaven. The dragon lost his position of power in the heavenlies and sought to destroy Israel (God's people) but she (they) were protected in the wilderness.

The idea that the woman is the church and man child is some "end time ministry" is based on numerous fundamental errors, the biggest one being not understanding the relationship between Israel and the church. Many mistakenly believe the church is a separate entity from Israel. That is incorrect. The church is the 12 tribes of Israel which have entered the new covenant. The church has always been Israel since the Exodus, and still is. Israel is the BRIDE:

Jeremiah 3:12-14 KJV
Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the Lord ; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger for ever. [13] Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the Lord. [14] Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord ; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

Israel was divorced by God:

Isaiah 50:1 KJV
Thus saith the Lord, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors is it to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.
Jeremiah 3:6-8 KJV
The Lord said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot. [7] And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it. [8] And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Israel was to be restored under Messiah:

Hosea 1:9-11 KJV
Then said God, Call his name Lo-ammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. [10] Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. [11] Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

This began to be fulfilled in the first century new covenant ekklesia:

Romans 9:22-26 KJV
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: [23] And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, [24] Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? [25] As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. [26] And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

So the church is in fact reclaimed Israel, operating under the new covenant:

Ephesians 2:12-13 KJV
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

The church is a part of Israel, it is that part which has entered the new covenant and which holds legal title to the name of Israel as the betrothed of God. It is described here:

Revelation 12:17 KJV
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by 1 God

The woman is Israel and the man child is Jesus Christ.

Why is the woman Israel when we have New Testament doctrine like this? What glorious woman were Apostles concerned about?

Ephesians 5: 25-32

25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

The same Apostle:

2 Cor. 11:

1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. 2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Rev. 19:7-8

7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

The woman is the Church.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Why is the woman Israel when we have New Testament doctrine like this? What glorious woman were Apostles concerned about?

Ephesians 5: 25-32

25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

The same Apostle:

2 Cor. 11:

1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. 2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Rev. 19:7-8

7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

The woman is the Church.

Amen Mike, your right on!!!

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Mike it's an hour long. You are hard to listen to, because you are slow. Not mentally, but just communicating your thoughts and reading to your audience. Watch Brother Blume's videos, he is lively, he encourages his audience to get involved. You on the other hand have zero presence. I'm not saying that because of my low respect that I hold for you. Or because I don't like you. In other words, going through your video for an hour is a bit of work. I take only sections at a time, and have to keep going back through the video. If I don't understand something or how you explain a verse. then I have you here to clarify. Is that OK Mr Mike?




So, the water coming out of the dragon are soldiers? Are sinners? Are Judaizers? The Government of the United States? The FBI, the ATF?

How does the earth swallow up these men?

That’s not very nice!