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Old 06-13-2018, 05:25 AM
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A Handmaids Tale

of course "A Handmaid's Tale" is liberal propaganda, but, what if there is a collapse of society and the right takes over?

There was a "Theonomy" during the inquisition.

There was a right wing government during the Third Reich with a government run "church"

There will be an antichrist who will rise from within the church
2 Thessalonians 2


Offred is a Handmaid in the Republic of Gilead. She may leave the home of the Commander and his wife once a day to walk to food markets whose signs are now pictures instead of words because women are no longer allowed to read. She must lie on her back once a month and pray that the Commander makes her pregnant, because in an age of declining births, Offred and the other Handmaids are valued only if their ovaries are viable.

Offred can remember the days before, when she lived and made love with her husband Luke; when she played with and protected her daughter; when she had a job, money of her own, and access to knowledge. But all of that is gone now….

Funny, unexpected, horrifying, and altogether convincing, The Handmaid's Tale is at once scathing satire, dire warning, and literary tour de force.

https://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tal...40_&dpSrc=srch



will the antichrist arise from the Right?

will homosexuals and adulterers be executed?

will women be striped of all rights and be solely conscripted for reproduction?

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Old 06-13-2018, 05:56 AM
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Re: A Handmaids Tale

Don’t y’all expect the AC to be a gay? Executing homosexuals would be like the ultimate display of self loathing.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:48 AM
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If he rises from the right, from within the church, he likely wont be gay.
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Re: A Handmaids Tale

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of course "A Handmaid's Tale" is liberal propaganda, but, what if there is a collapse of society and the right takes over?

There was a "Theonomy" during the inquisition.

There was a right wing government during the Third Reich with a government run "church"

There will be an antichrist who will rise from within the church
2 Thessalonians 2


Offred is a Handmaid in the Republic of Gilead. She may leave the home of the Commander and his wife once a day to walk to food markets whose signs are now pictures instead of words because women are no longer allowed to read. She must lie on her back once a month and pray that the Commander makes her pregnant, because in an age of declining births, Offred and the other Handmaids are valued only if their ovaries are viable.

Offred can remember the days before, when she lived and made love with her husband Luke; when she played with and protected her daughter; when she had a job, money of her own, and access to knowledge. But all of that is gone now….

Funny, unexpected, horrifying, and altogether convincing, The Handmaid's Tale is at once scathing satire, dire warning, and literary tour de force.

https://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tal...40_&dpSrc=srch



will the antichrist arise from the Right?

will homosexuals and adulterers be executed?

will women be striped of all rights and be solely conscripted for reproduction?
sounds like any Muslim through history
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:26 AM
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Re: A Handmaids Tale

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of course "A Handmaid's Tale" is liberal propaganda, but, what if there is a collapse of society and the right takes over?

will the antichrist arise from the Right?

will homosexuals and adulterers be executed?

will women be striped of all rights and be solely conscripted for reproduction?
The spirit of antichrist could very well arise from anywhere he's allowed to flourish.

Yes, if Theonomists/Christian Reconstructionists were to take over society, homosexuals and adulterers will face execution. In fact, the following sins would become punishable by death:
•Murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)
•Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
•Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
•Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)
•Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)
•Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)
•Human sacrifice (Leviticus 20:2-5)
•Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
•Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
•Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
•Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
•Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
•Prostitution by a priest's daughter (Leviticus 21:9)
•Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
•False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
•Perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19)
•Refusing to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)
•False claim of a woman's virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
•Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
As it relates to women being conscripted for reproduction, I don't think it would be that overt. It stands to reason that women would return to being socially classified as they were under the Law of Moses. This could mean that women/wives could become a man's legal property, just as it was in biblical times. Limitations on legal rights such as voting, owning property, etc. could once more find their way back into our society.

For example...

Once the rank and file Theonomists that we know here take over, they might not desire to take away a woman's right to vote or own property. They're good guys, right? They just want "God's law" to govern society. But common social and psychological dynamics will begin...and other men will seek power (as they always do). We'd likely see an even more conservative group of Theonomists arise to challenge the first for political gain, and to "advance righteousness". This second group will see themselves as purifying the errors of the first. And if they appear more "godly", and can sway the simple minded, they will gain power. Just look at how the political parties are shifting further and further to the right and left. It's a common social dynamic. "I'm more conservative than you!", is essentially the spirit that will bring this about. And this second group could very well support prohibiting women from voting, owning property, having the right to divorce, etc.

In the end, the only thing expected of women socially will be to marry, serve their husbands, and yes... reproduce. It's only been roughly 300 years since that was rather common. And yes, unless we defend human liberty...those days could return.

This is why going down this path is so dangerous. But they just don't seem to want to see it. Personally, I see Theonomy as a threat to human liberty and a blight on the church.
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sounds like any Muslim through history
it would be *Christian Sharia law*
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The spirit of antichrist could very well arise from anywhere he's allowed to flourish.

Yes, if Theonomists/Christian Reconstructionists were to take over society, homosexuals and adulterers will face execution. In fact, the following sins would become punishable by death:
•Murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)
•Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
•Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
•Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)
•Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)
•Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)
•Human sacrifice (Leviticus 20:2-5)
•Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
•Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
•Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
•Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
•Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
•Prostitution by a priest's daughter (Leviticus 21:9)
•Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
•False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
•Perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19)
•Refusing to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)
•False claim of a woman's virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
•Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
. . .

I think this might be the case if we followed the OT instead of the NT
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:10 AM
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I think this might be the case if we followed the OT instead of the NT
Most Theonomists rely heavily on the works of, Rousas John Rushdoony, a Calvinist philosopher who championed the reinstitution of OT law, namely as described in his book, Institutes of Biblical Law.

The NT alone doesn't propose a theonomist approach to the Kingdom. In the NT, the Kingdom is spiritual and permeates all earthly nations, being comprised of every ethnicity, kindred, people, and tongue until Christ returns.
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of course "A Handmaid's Tale" is liberal propaganda, but, what if there is a collapse of society and the right takes over?

There was a "Theonomy" during the inquisition.

There was a right wing government during the Third Reich with a government run "church"

There will be an antichrist who will rise from within the church
2 Thessalonians 2


Offred is a Handmaid in the Republic of Gilead. She may leave the home of the Commander and his wife once a day to walk to food markets whose signs are now pictures instead of words because women are no longer allowed to read. She must lie on her back once a month and pray that the Commander makes her pregnant, because in an age of declining births, Offred and the other Handmaids are valued only if their ovaries are viable.

Offred can remember the days before, when she lived and made love with her husband Luke; when she played with and protected her daughter; when she had a job, money of her own, and access to knowledge. But all of that is gone now….

Funny, unexpected, horrifying, and altogether convincing, The Handmaid's Tale is at once scathing satire, dire warning, and literary tour de force.

https://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tal...40_&dpSrc=srch

will the antichrist arise from the Right?

will homosexuals and adulterers be executed?

will women be striped of all rights and be solely conscripted for reproduction?
The Nazi's were not right-wing.
Does the phrase National Socialists German Workers Party sound right wing to you?
Insofar as a church the long term goal of the Nazi's was to turn Germany back to the old gods, prior to Christianity.
The Handmaid is just anti-Christian propaganda, nothing more.
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If he rises from the right, from within the church, he likely wont be gay.
Like Nero who had a young male slave castrated. Then he married the slave?
Who hated women because of his mother?
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