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Old 06-04-2019, 05:47 PM
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[B]To you who believe Jesus came, resurrected the dead, translated the Church and established the New Heavens and the New Earth in 70ad it cannot be explained.
translated the church in 70 A.D.? No, I don't believe that, but I told you this, a few times already. But since you are an ecclesiastical religious punk, one needs to tell you again.

God doesn't tell a pastor to preach against a beard, but Jesus told you to wear sack cloth and witness to people?

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But to those who think Jesus words are relevant to us alive today the rise of Sodom is a sign.
Luke 17:26-30 Jesus is referring to two catastrophic EVENTS! The events are what Jesu is referring to when He is addressing His audience. "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they were Lesbians, men were with men, the men dressed like women, the were those who were no genders, they had parades flaunting their perversions , the men married men, and the president condone their actions" Mike, when you read the verses this is what you see. Like when you read Revelation 12:12, you see Satan landing his X wing fighter on the White House lawn. But that is not what the verse is trying to say, and the Bible is one book we shouldn't just make things up. Again, Luke 17:26-30 has Jesus telling Judeans about two catastrophic events in their history. The people in these two stories where awaiting their judgement, but didn't have the foggiest idea about the urgency to repent. Matthew 12:41 Jesus brings up Nineveh, and how that the men of Nineveh would stand up in the judgement and judge the audience which Jesus was addressing. Because one, they were part of the Judaic history, and those Gentiles repented at the preaching. Sodom and the earth of Noah, had God winding up to hurl a stone at that them. Yet, even though they had Lot among them, with Abraham pleading with God to spare them, and Noah preaching to those around them. They still went on with their everyday lives without notice that their judgement was coming. To say that drag queens are a sign we are in the Great Tribulation is false. Because if that was the case, then Thailand should of burst into flames 40 years ago.

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There was a reason YAH destroyed Sodom. There was a reason Jesus used it for an example.
Maybe if you were smart enough to speak a language you actually knew, you might understand others.

Yet, again Jesus isn't focusing on homosexuyals in Noah's case or Sodoms. Jesus is focusing on judgement. Because the audience He was addressing where going to get hammered by the Romans Luke 19:42-44. The days of Lot and Noah are focused around impending judgement, and that God was going to destroy them all. Yet, they would be eating drinking, building, selling, buying, and then sudden destruction came and took them all away 1 Thessalonians 5:3. Hey, Mike, you don't speak a word of Hebrew, so give Jesus a break, and call Him by His name, JESUS!


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When wickedness become EXCEEDINGLY great as it was in the time of Sodom the thought of his appearing should be on our mind.
Mike we are told that the sin of Sodom was pride, gluttony, slothfulness, didn't care for those who were less fortunate. But manly they were arrogantly prideful, therefore they did detestable things. Buddy boy, you should of been tooting your horn against all of the wealthy aristocrats in Hollywood, New York, and Miami long ago. No, Mike, no apostle taught that when we see men having sex with men it was the end of the world.
It isn't the end of the world, it is the end of this country as we once knew it. It will be punished like every other country that becomes reprobate.

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The sins of Sodom were many. And yet the Spirit used the story of the sodomites trying to break down Lots door to rape the angels to forever stigmatize that prticular sin.
Did Jesus, point that out to His audience? Did Ezekiel point that out to His audience? Mike, YAH wants you to speak English.

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Jesus could have used any other example of sin for people to watch out for in context of his coming but he chose the story of Sodom.
Mike, where did Jesus point out homosexuyality in reference to Sodom, or Noah? Because He makes the same statement with both stories.

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Now I mentioned the President pushing Sodomite rights as an example of where our nation is.
Mike, that is nothing compared to all the presidents who came before him. My lands, take the wife to Washington D.C.! Go look at all the MASONIC symbols of the individuals who put this all together. Dude, if you think God was waiting for Donald Trump to have a reason to thrown down, then you don't know anything about this country. The owl on the dollar bill is laughing YAH, YAH, YAH, at you.

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Everyone will do what they chose to do with the information. One may think I really need to pray for the President to back off the abomination. That would be Biblical.
No, what would be New Testament (you know the one that is written in Greek, not in HEBREW) you would pray that he get SAVED, (because he is already shaved). Pry that he repents, and is baptized in Jesus name. Hey, God did it for you, the woman screamed JESUS!!! You heard her do it enough tat you investigated, but when you looked it said Acts 2:38 JESUS!!! Not YAH, you didn't see YAH, because you wouldn't of understood. Pray for the president to get Apostolically saved in JESUS name.

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If we are not RIGHT AT the time of the coming of Christ what will it hurt? Perhaps we can gain some more respite time.
Not right when Jesus come, then you don't go? Mike, you aren't going. You don't even know God's name.

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Or it COULD BE that the sign of Sodom means we are closer than we think and some might be touched in their heart to realize they are not where they need to be to meet their God.
Mike? Could Bes, Might Bes, and May Bes. I'm wrong but you are right? With your maybe theology? Go home with that. You are a joker.
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Jesus mentioned Lot leaving Sodom. Jesus listeners were aware of what happened in Sodom. Even today when you mention Sodom, the public knows what you are referring to.
Yes, therefore they focused on His words, eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to THE DAY!!!!

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It is written,
John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world:
Only those blinded by their desire for the power and authority of this world cannot grasp what "not of this world" truly means.

God controls the rise and fall of nations. The West is falling because God desires to allow it to be so. The notion that anything, including a theocracy, can save it would be like trying to put out an active volcano with a squirt gun.

And why would anyone want to give the state increased power to execute on religious pretenses... when it has clearly become wicked beyond measure? Don't you realize the state will corrupt even the theocracy you dream of building for it?



Hmmm...500 years ago when prostitution, abortion, cannabis, heroin, opium, duels, beating wives, child labor, and many other things I could name were perfectly legal, and slaves were being shipped to the Americas and around the world to sustain colonist economies?

You're in a self-created illusion. And every era of human history has been more ugly than pretty. The reality of the Kingdom of God cometh not with observation. You can't point to it and say it's here or there. It's within you and manifest in the midst of God's people who fellowship in the Spirit.

When Jesus returns... every human kingdom will be reduced to dust. Even the lopsided, right-wing (or left-wing), pseudo-Christian theocracies that might exist at that time.
Silly wabbit, facts are for adults.

A cursory bing search of the history of legalised prostitution reveals you haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about. The same goes for pretty much the rest of your post.

Weren't you claiming to be a Unitarian Universalist several years ago, and that you believed Genesis was "sacred myth"?

So clearly an appeal to Scripture doesn't work with you. History isn't your forte either. Neither is logical thinking, obviously.
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Silly wabbit, facts are for adults.

A cursory bing search of the history of legalised prostitution reveals you haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about. The same goes for pretty much the rest of your post.

Weren't you claiming to be a Unitarian Universalist several years ago, and that you believed Genesis was "sacred myth"?

So clearly an appeal to Scripture doesn't work with you. History isn't your forte either. Neither is logical thinking, obviously.
Are you telling me that prostitution wasn't legal in colonial America and after the Revolution? Yes or no?
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Are you telling me that prostitution wasn't legal in colonial America and after the Revolution? Yes or no?
Clearly you are no good at math, either.
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Originally legal in the United States, prostitution was outlawed in almost all states between 1910 and 1915 largely due to the influence of the Woman's Christian Temperance Union which was influential in the banning of drug use and was a major force in the prohibition of alcohol.

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Clearly you are no good at math, either.
What is the history of the "brothel"???

I bet our readers will find brothels were legal in England, the Colonies, and early America. In fact, the reader will see how brothels were legal going back many centuries, with only sporadic efforts by religious authorities to close them.

The point is... you're glorifying the past beyond reality. It was just as bad then as it is today. And it some places and circumstances, worse.

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Now that the short bus has departed from campus, we can get back to the more important topic concerning Trump's campaign for perverts heralding the End of Days (Arnold doesn't appear in this episode).

Jesus' statements concerning Sodom were pointing out the following:

1. There will be a parallel between Sodom's destruction and Jerusalem's (following a common theme throughout scripture re: divine judgments).

2. The parallel includes people in both cities not repenting in response to prophetic preaching.

3. Both cities would remain unaware of the finality of their impending doom until it was too late.

4. The doom would be extensive and "total".

5. Only the righteous (those who heed the preaching) would be able to escape, because they were not unaware of the impending doom.
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Now that the short bus has departed from campus, we can get back to the more important topic concerning Trump's campaign for perverts heralding the End of Days (Arnold doesn't appear in this episode).

Jesus' tatements concerning Sodom were pointing out the following:

1. There will be a parallel between Sodom's destruction and Jerusalem's (following a common theme throughout scripture re: divine judgments).

2. The parallel includes people in both cities not repenting in response to prophetic preaching.

3. Both cities would remain unaware of the finality of their impending doom until it was too late.

4. The doom would be extensive and "total".

5. Only the righteous (those who heed the preaching) would be able to escape, because they were not unaware of the impending doom.
Do you believe this happened in ad 70 or is this yet future?
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Do you believe this happened in ad 70 or is this yet future?
Do I know you?
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