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11-03-2022, 09:32 AM
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Re: Wpf & upci
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So you can't fellowship people who are in a different organization unless you're a member of their organization.
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You still can. There are many pastors who fellowship the WPF, but are not dues paying members.
Some of those even preach WPF meetings.
Probably more who fellowship but aren't dues paying, than those who pay dues to both orgs.
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11-03-2022, 06:07 PM
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Re: Wpf & upci
Wasn’t the split over advertising on tv?
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11-04-2022, 09:18 AM
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Re: Wpf & upci
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That was the issue. However, the issue was voted on several times and failed before it passed.
The main issue was that the last time it was voted on and failed, assurances were given (before the vote) that this would be the last time it was brought up.
This was a large reason for the split.
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From previous post.
It was advertising and services on TV.
This was in the days of network and cable.
Internet hadn't become a "thing" yet.
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11-04-2022, 12:36 PM
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Re: Wpf & upci
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From previous post.
It was advertising and services on TV.
This was in the days of network and cable.
Internet hadn't become a "thing" yet.
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Uhhh we were all on some forum when there was a split. Internet wasn’t a thing?
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11-04-2022, 01:20 PM
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Re: Wpf & upci
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Uhhh we were all on some forum when there was a split. Internet wasn’t a thing?
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I think there may be confusion from the affirmation signing and the WPF situation.
Back when the UPCI required the affirmation signing, many on the more liberal side of the UPCI left the organizatin, and that was back when the internet was not as predominant as it is now, but it was still here. I think this was @1992 or so.
When the UPCI voted to allow TV advertising and broadcast, many on the more conservative side of the UPCI, left the organization and formed the WPF in 2008.
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11-05-2022, 07:05 AM
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Re: Wpf & upci
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I think there may be confusion from the affirmation signing and the WPF situation.
Back when the UPCI required the affirmation signing, many on the more liberal side of the UPCI left the organizatin, and that was back when the internet was not as predominant as it is now, but it was still here. I think this was @1992 or so.
When the UPCI voted to allow TV advertising and broadcast, many on the more conservative side of the UPCI, left the organization and formed the WPF in 2008.
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Regarding the highlighted portion.
1) What exactly was the affirmation signing? To clarify this was before my time.
2) To those that did leave the organization, do you happen to know where the majority of them went?
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11-05-2022, 08:15 AM
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Re: Wpf & upci
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Regarding the highlighted portion.
1) What exactly was the affirmation signing? To clarify this was before my time.
2) To those that did leave the organization, do you happen to know where the majority of them went?
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The affirmation signing was requiring all licensed ministers to annually,or maybe bi-annually, I am not sure which, because the UPCI felt many were no longer following the manual.
I am not sure where they all went, but I think most formed a new organization, or maybe just independent, but I don't recall what it was called.
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11-05-2022, 09:12 AM
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11-05-2022, 09:12 AM
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11-07-2022, 08:36 AM
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Re: Wpf & upci
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The affirmation signing was requiring all licensed ministers to annually,or maybe bi-annually, I am not sure which, because the UPCI felt many were no longer following the manual.
I am not sure where they all went, but I think most formed a new organization, or maybe just independent, but I don't recall what it was called.
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Affirmation statement was in 1992.
It was a reaction to some churches not preaching holiness, as defined in the UPCI manual.
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