|
Tab Menu 1
Political Talk Political News |
|
|
04-24-2008, 07:48 AM
|
|
La vie est un voyage
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: In two of the most beautiful states in the U.S.A
Posts: 1,676
|
|
Re: Who Are you voting For?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChristopherHall
I'm trying to warm up to McCain...but I really don't want to see another four years of Bush's policies. I don't like McCain's Health Care purposal (but I think it's less ambitious than a Universal Health Insurance plan and therefore actually doable). I don't like McCain's tax cut, tax cut, tax cut approach, the Government is already running on fumes and the deficit is out of control. The Wall Street Journal stated that McCain's economic plan would explode the deficit and nearly a third of the national budget will have to be cut. Seeing we have a war to pay for that's crazy. I'm not sure if I like McCain's position on the war...but with Iran and N. Korea being stupid I'm asking myself if Iran proved to have nukes, would I rather either of the Democrats or McCain in charge? McCain gains some points here for me. I agree with Republican energy policy to a large degree. However, I think strict environmental "oversight" (not regulation) is needed. I like his position on abortion and gay marriage. I like his position on retraining and education of workers who lost their jobs. I like McCain's common sense approach on the environment. But...will McCain become just another pawn of the special interests of Big Oil and Big Business?
But all in all...I'm not real big on McCain, especially if he will just be Bush III.
Obama gives me pause. I really liked the guy at first. I believe he's a very spiritual man (but liberal). I like his domestic economic plans to pay off the deficit and get back within budget and actually fund the government by repealing tax cuts. I like the Democrats Health Care plan, I think it's far more ambitious than McCain's...but for that reason it will be an uphill battle to pass it.
I think I've moved from being relatively sure I was voting for Obama to being undecided. I'll have to see the Democratic candidate and McCain side by side talking policy and crunching numbers. Then I'll fact check 'em and vote for whoever appears to be being the most straight up.
Lastly, I had a vision at work today. The Jewish people in the nation of Israel are in real trouble and God was speaking to me about how America and Britain are prophetically bound to them. Obama's father was a Muslim from Kenya. You guys know from debating me that I'm not a racist or a bigot against other religions. But God was speaking to me about this election in light of His prophetic plans in the earth. It might be just me, but I felt impressed in my spirit that this election is about more than just liberal or conservative...it's about something deeper. The word I felt impressed upon me was, "seed". You have two different "seeds" about to be elected to the most powerful office on earth. I don't understand the entire vision yet, but in my vision there were two olive trees, one tall (two thick trunks) and one short (three thinner trunks). The shorter tree was flourishing and about to bare fruit in the shade of the taller. But the taller tree was shaken with the wind and began to wilt almost instantly. Suddenly the light of the sun began to pierce through the branches of the taller tree and the sunlight burned and dried up the buds of the shorter tree that had previously flourished in the tall tree's shade. The rest I don't feel at liberty to share.
If Prax was on the ballot, my decision would be far easier.
|
Glad you are finally seeing the light, we as well as England have been strong because of our relationship with Israel. It's in the Book!! God already said he would bless us if we blessed the Jews. Oh, since there's not another Bush running I'll have to go with McCain.
Last edited by SOUNWORTHY; 04-24-2008 at 07:50 AM.
Reason: Addition
|
04-24-2008, 08:11 AM
|
|
Not riding the train
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48,541
|
|
Re: Who Are you voting For?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChristopherHall
I'm trying to warm up to McCain...but I really don't want to see another four years of Bush's policies. I don't like McCain's Health Care purposal (but I think it's less ambitious than a Universal Health Insurance plan and therefore actually doable). I don't like McCain's tax cut, tax cut, tax cut approach, the Government is already running on fumes and the deficit is out of control. The Wall Street Journal stated that McCain's economic plan would explode the deficit and nearly a third of the national budget will have to be cut. Seeing we have a war to pay for that's crazy. I'm not sure if I like McCain's position on the war...but with Iran and N. Korea being stupid I'm asking myself if Iran proved to have nukes, would I rather either of the Democrats or McCain in charge? McCain gains some points here for me. I agree with Republican energy policy to a large degree. However, I think strict environmental "oversight" (not regulation) is needed. I like his position on abortion and gay marriage. I like his position on retraining and education of workers who lost their jobs. I like McCain's common sense approach on the environment. But...will McCain become just another pawn of the special interests of Big Oil and Big Business?
But all in all...I'm not real big on McCain, especially if he will just be Bush III.
Obama gives me pause. I really liked the guy at first. I believe he's a very spiritual man (but liberal). I like his domestic economic plans to pay off the deficit and get back within budget and actually fund the government by repealing tax cuts. I like the Democrats Health Care plan, I think it's far more ambitious than McCain's...but for that reason it will be an uphill battle to pass it.
I think I've moved from being relatively sure I was voting for Obama to being undecided. I'll have to see the Democratic candidate and McCain side by side talking policy and crunching numbers. Then I'll fact check 'em and vote for whoever appears to be being the most straight up.
Lastly, I had a vision at work today. The Jewish people in the nation of Israel are in real trouble and God was speaking to me about how America and Britain are prophetically bound to them. Obama's father was a Muslim from Kenya. You guys know from debating me that I'm not a racist or a bigot against other religions. But God was speaking to me about this election in light of His prophetic plans in the earth. It might be just me, but I felt impressed in my spirit that this election is about more than just liberal or conservative...it's about something deeper. The word I felt impressed upon me was, "seed". You have two different "seeds" about to be elected to the most powerful office on earth. I don't understand the entire vision yet, but in my vision there were two olive trees, one tall (two thick trunks) and one short (three thinner trunks). The shorter tree was flourishing and about to bare fruit in the shade of the taller. But the taller tree was shaken with the wind and began to wilt almost instantly. Suddenly the light of the sun began to pierce through the branches of the taller tree and the sunlight burned and dried up the buds of the shorter tree that had previously flourished in the tall tree's shade. The rest I don't feel at liberty to share.
If Prax was on the ballot, my decision would be far easier.
|
Christopher! I absolutely enjoyed reading this post!!!
I am voting for McCain in answer to the thread question.
|
04-24-2008, 07:46 PM
|
|
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,781
|
|
Re: Who Are you voting For?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd
I will not vote for anyone trying to reinact Herbert Hoover style of goverment.
both Dems are taking hard stances against NAFTA and talking about raising Tarriffs and both dems are talking about raising taxes on the wealthy.
All of this during a time of economic uncertainty.
These are the two things Herbert Hoover did in the 1930s that caused the great depression to become especially great and depressing.
|
Do you think the Democrats could be calculating that sort of thing? Think about it...if they can crash the economy, they stand to benefit. It was left leaning social economics found in the New Deal that solidified decades of Democratic dominance. Who's to say they aren't planning to kick the economy in the pants, blame the Bush administration (who has been less than desirable), and then launch a modern New Deal in the hopes of asserting Democratic dominance. ?
I don't trust Republicans very much right now...but I don't trust the Democrats either.
__________________
"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
|
04-24-2008, 07:51 PM
|
|
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,781
|
|
Re: Who Are you voting For?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY
Glad you are finally seeing the light, we as well as England have been strong because of our relationship with Israel. It's in the Book!! God already said he would bless us if we blessed the Jews. Oh, since there's not another Bush running I'll have to go with McCain.
|
I believe we're blessed because we help the Jewish people and because America and Britain are essential players in what God is doing in the earth, even though most in the Isles and the States don't even know who they are.
I think a lot of us are really hurting right now and we're afraid we'll not survive under another Bushlike President and we project that fear onto McCain. I do know the Wall Street Journal really critiqued his economics, I'm not sure if I like everything he's proposing...but there is a good chance that Democrats will remain in control of Congress. Hopefully we can avoid having any one party controlling the government. I think that when one party is in Congress and one party is in the White House we do fairly well because everyone is on their toes. If McCain gets the Presidency I believe his pragmatism and a Democratic congress will find a way to meet in the middle. But if either Democrat wins and they also get Congress....lookout.
__________________
"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
|
04-24-2008, 08:06 PM
|
|
Registered Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,374
|
|
Re: Who Are you voting For?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DividedThigh
any one who wants to can act silly all they want but i will not ever vote for anyone who does not respect life, and who wants to raise my taxes, done deal, dt
|
So you're staying home on election day, eh, DT?
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:39 AM.
| |