Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > The Library
Facebook

Notices

The Library The Library for posting Articles and recommended reading.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-02-2013, 04:59 PM
Rudy Rudy is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,778
A treatise on the upc.

Very interesting seeing how long ago this was written

http://www.lisamcpherson.org/upc.htm
__________________


http://www.paganchristianity.org


Go here on tithing----->

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/

If it is God's will for your illness then why are you seeking medical attention to get rid of it?

Last edited by Rudy; 03-02-2013 at 05:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-02-2013, 06:31 PM
Michael The Disciple's Avatar
Michael The Disciple Michael The Disciple is online now
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 14,347
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Well no way did I read the extremely long article. But I hit what seemed to be high points. The writer (Jacobsen) attacks Pentecostal errors concerning Ministry and Church life very strongly. Much of what I read is certainly warrented even to this day.

His calling the KJV the most corrupt and inacurate Bible in our modern day is ridiculous. The KJV is not the original Biblical manuscript but in comparison to other English versions in very solid.

I wonder where Bro. Jacobsen is today? Is he still a disciple? Still Pentecostal?

I wonder if the Church he attended was Pastored by Jim Yohe who I think started this Forum or at least its forerunner. Yohe was thought of to be ahead of his time among some Pentecostals. Did he oppose what Jacobsen was teaching or did he side with him?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-04-2013, 09:09 PM
Scott Hutchinson's Avatar
Scott Hutchinson Scott Hutchinson is offline
Resident PeaceMaker


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jackson,AL.
Posts: 16,548
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple View Post
Well no way did I read the extremely long article. But I hit what seemed to be high points. The writer (Jacobsen) attacks Pentecostal errors concerning Ministry and Church life very strongly. Much of what I read is certainly warrented even to this day.

His calling the KJV the most corrupt and inacurate Bible in our modern day is ridiculous. The KJV is not the original Biblical manuscript but in comparison to other English versions in very solid.

I wonder where Bro. Jacobsen is today? Is he still a disciple? Still Pentecostal?

I wonder if the Church he attended was Pastored by Jim Yohe who I think started this Forum or at least its forerunner. Yohe was thought of to be ahead of his time among some Pentecostals. Did he oppose what Jacobsen was teaching or did he side with him?
I think the writer attended the assembly pastored by brother Yohe's Father.
__________________
People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-04-2013, 09:27 PM
Rudy Rudy is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,778
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple View Post
Well no way did I read the extremely long article. But I hit what seemed to be high points. The writer (Jacobsen) attacks Pentecostal errors concerning Ministry and Church life very strongly. Much of what I read is certainly warrented even to this day.

His calling the KJV the most corrupt and inacurate Bible in our modern day is ridiculous. The KJV is not the original Biblical manuscript but in comparison to other English versions in very solid.

I wonder where Bro. Jacobsen is today? Is he still a disciple? Still Pentecostal?

I wonder if the Church he attended was Pastored by Jim Yohe who I think started this Forum or at least its forerunner. Yohe was thought of to be ahead of his time among some Pentecostals. Did he oppose what Jacobsen was teaching or did he side with him?
Let me state that posting this is not me personally wanting to smear the UPC. I don't think the article actually does that. I do see merit in his article. The time period of which it is written intrigues me.


Here is his webpage.

http://www.jeffjacobsen.org/
__________________


http://www.paganchristianity.org


Go here on tithing----->

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/

If it is God's will for your illness then why are you seeking medical attention to get rid of it?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-04-2013, 09:30 PM
Scott Hutchinson's Avatar
Scott Hutchinson Scott Hutchinson is offline
Resident PeaceMaker


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jackson,AL.
Posts: 16,548
Re: A treatise on the upc.

I think he makes valid points in his article.
__________________
People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-05-2013, 07:49 PM
Michael The Disciple's Avatar
Michael The Disciple Michael The Disciple is online now
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 14,347
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Apparently now he says the UPC is a cult. He is doing "religous studies" now. He is a "progessive". I take that to mean a left of center liberal, if not a socialist.

I have never wanted to be in the UPC but he would have done better to stay where he was and cultivate a relationship with Jesus than to allow MEN to turn him from Christ.

Last edited by Michael The Disciple; 03-05-2013 at 07:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-05-2013, 08:36 PM
Rudy Rudy is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,778
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple View Post
Apparently now he says the UPC is a cult. He is doing "religous studies" now. He is a "progessive". I take that to mean a left of center liberal, if not a socialist.

I have never wanted to be in the UPC but he would have done better to stay where he was and cultivate a relationship with Jesus than to allow MEN to turn him from Christ.
You're right on Bro. Did you read his reason for leaving?
__________________


http://www.paganchristianity.org


Go here on tithing----->

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/

If it is God's will for your illness then why are you seeking medical attention to get rid of it?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-05-2013, 08:54 PM
Michael The Disciple's Avatar
Michael The Disciple Michael The Disciple is online now
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 14,347
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
You're right on Bro. Did you read his reason for leaving?
Yes but people have to get over MEN and look to Christ. He will still be held accountable for his life before God.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-06-2013, 10:47 AM
jediwill83's Avatar
jediwill83 jediwill83 is online now
Believe, Obey, Declare


 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: West Monroe Louisiana
Posts: 3,449
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Actually he's just taking a very honest approach to the early church as recorded in scripture and comparing it to the church now....I actually took the time to read it and while im no greek scholar just the scriptures themselves presented made a compelling argument....its not only applicable to the upc but also all the other denominations.
__________________
Blessed are the merciful for they SHALL obtain mercy.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-06-2013, 11:49 AM
Aquila Aquila is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 31,124
Re: A treatise on the upc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple View Post
Apparently now he says the UPC is a cult. He is doing "religous studies" now. He is a "progessive". I take that to mean a left of center liberal, if not a socialist.
In what sense is he "progressive"?

Also, political positions such as conservative, liberal, capitalist, socialist are all just human viewpoints regarding civil social structure and economics. A born again Christian in a socialist country might remain loyal to the socialist party of his choosing without compromising his or her faith. It's interesting to note that biblical economics from the OT presents God structuring ancient Israel as an agrarian socialist/distributist nation.

Quote:
I have never wanted to be in the UPC but he would have done better to stay where he was and cultivate a relationship with Jesus than to allow MEN to turn him from Christ.
I don't really know this guy... has he forsaken Christ?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
upc view of upc standards Dedicated Mind Fellowship Hall 10 06-18-2011 08:07 PM
The UPC Needs..... Praxeas Fellowship Hall 34 02-11-2009 09:01 AM
New TV Ad UPC? Pastor G Fellowship Hall 8 01-08-2008 02:42 PM
((((UPC FLASH)))))) Announcing the Next Possible General SUPT. Of the UPC!!! Thad The Tab 110 12-10-2007 10:41 PM
Why aren't there more African Americans in the UPC or the leadership of the UPC??? Carpenter Fellowship Hall 190 10-14-2007 05:29 PM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by Ron

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:44 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.