If that truly is the case, will those who voted for Republican presidents since 1980 have blood on their hands since 7 of the 9 justices were appointed by Republican presidents and legal abortions have continued?
Abortion has not been promoted nor expanded by Republicans. Of the 7 Republican appointees you mention, 4 are stauchly against Roe v Wade, 1 is a waffler who goes back and forth depending on his buddies on the court at the time, and the other two were deceivers who no one had any idea they were so liberal until they started making decisions on the Court. McCain promises to appoint those in the mold of the first 4. The two Clinton appointees are both stauchly anti-life, including one who believes that prostitution should be legalized and the age of sexual consent should be lowered to 12. Obama promises appointees of similar persuasions.
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Abortion has not been promoted nor expanded by Republicans. Of the 7 Republican appointees you mention, 4 are stauchly against Roe v Wade, 1 is a waffler who goes back and forth depending on his buddies on the court at the time, and the other two were deceivers who no one had any idea they were so liberal until they started making decisions on the Court. McCain promises to appoint those in the mold of the first 4. The two Clinton appointees are both stauchly anti-life, including one who believes that prostitution should be legalized and the age of sexual consent should be lowered to 12. Obama promises appointees of similar persuasions.
Thanks for clearing that up. Since you were assigning blood to hands eternally, I wanted to make sure that the Republicans didn't hold any blame over the continuance of legal abortion given their strong majority of appointees on the highest court in the land.
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If one were to vote to end abortion in this country, according to at least the rhetoric of members of the major parties, he/she would have to vote Republican. Have the Republicans always kept their promises to the pro-life voters? No, but that blood is on their hands, not on the hands of those who believed their promises and voted for them. OTOH, how is voting for someone who promises to PROTECT abortion as if it is part of the first amendment going to shake out on judgement day? I think I'll play it safe with McCain/Palin '08.
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In the beginning of the Roe vs Wade decision, abortion was supposed to be
allowed only within the first tri-mester. But it got worse and then partial birth
abortion was allowed where the baby could go to full term and then let the
baby be born, with the exception of it's little head. Then they would place a
pair of scissors into it's little head and spill it's brains out, destroying it's life.
That is what partial-birth abortion is, as I understand it.
Makes me wonder how many read the links I posted with my original post,
beginning this thread. That's why I started the thread to show that Pres.
Bush did get the partial-birth abortion banned. To me that is a big thing he
did right! If partial-birth abortion can be banned or overturned, why not
Roe vs Wade.
I am just simple enough to believe that IF enough people who call themselves
Christians would take the STAND they should against these horrible acts,GOD
would honor it! That IS MY belief.
When we're more concerned about the economy than we are some other
crucial issues, it is cause for concern. God has promised to supply all our
needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. David said he had
never seen the righteous forsaken nor his seed begging for bread. God
can take care of the economy IF we please HIM! HE's BIG ENOUGH!!!
In Numbers 25, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his
brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses and in the sight of all
the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the
door of the congregation of the tabernacle.
And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it,
he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand;
And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both, the
woman (through her belly) and the man, and the plague was stayed (stopped)
from the children of Israel. Twenty four thousand died in the plague.
The LORD told Moses that Phinehas had turned His wrath away from the
children of Israel because he was zealous for his God. This would not be the
way to handle things today for a Christian. But when we take a stand for
Christ by doing things right, He will take care of the wrong in His own way
and time. But HE expects those who carry His Name to STAND UP for what
is right!! If men don't or won't do it, then the women have to do it. Someone
has got to do it!!!
10.Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might.
11. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
12. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
13.Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
14. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15. and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace.
16.In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of
(the evil one;
17. and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
18. praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication.
"When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn." Prov. 29:2
Abraham Lincoln (1809–65)
QUOTATION: I know that the LORD is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the LORD’S side.
Looks like to me we need more righteous people speaking up! Standing up!
Doing what is right!
Righteousness exalts (lifts up) a nation, but sin is a reproach (shame) for any people.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, also of knowledge and
understanding.
The fear of man bringeth a snare (trap).
PLEASE, NOT ONE WORD OF MY POSTS ARE TO OFFEND BUT TO STIR UP OUR PURE
MINDS AND TO PROVOKE SERIOUS THINKING!
When we're more concerned about the economy than we are some other
crucial issues, it is cause for concern. God has promised to supply all our
needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. David said he had
never seen the righteous forsaken nor his seed begging for bread. God
can take care of the economy IF we please HIM! HE's BIG ENOUGH!!!
Amen, Preach it, Preach it, Preach it!
__________________ The Truth will never be mainstream. The Truth will never be popular. Orthodox doctrine will always be false doctrine.
In the beginning of the Roe vs Wade decision, abortion was supposed to be
allowed only within the first tri-mester. But it got worse and then partial birth
abortion was allowed where the baby could go to full term and then let the
baby be born, with the exception of it's little head. Then they would place a
pair of scissors into it's little head and spill it's brains out, destroying it's life.
That is what partial-birth abortion is, as I understand it.
Makes me wonder how many read the links I posted with my original post,
beginning this thread. That's why I started the thread to show that Pres.
Bush did get the partial-birth abortion banned. To me that is a big thing he
did right! If partial-birth abortion can be banned or overturned, why not
Roe vs Wade.
I am just simple enough to believe that IF enough people who call themselves
Christians would take the STAND they should against these horrible acts,GOD
would honor it! That IS MY belief.
When we're more concerned about the economy than we are some other
crucial issues, it is cause for concern. God has promised to supply all our
needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. David said he had
never seen the righteous forsaken nor his seed begging for bread. God
can take care of the economy IF we please HIM! HE's BIG ENOUGH!!!
In Numbers 25, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his
brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses and in the sight of all
the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the
door of the congregation of the tabernacle.
And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it,
he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand;
And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both, the
woman (through her belly) and the man, and the plague was stayed (stopped)
from the children of Israel. Twenty four thousand died in the plague.
The LORD told Moses that Phinehas had turned His wrath away from the
children of Israel because he was zealous for his God. This would not be the
way to handle things today for a Christian. But when we take a stand for
Christ by doing things right, He will take care of the wrong in His own way
and time. But HE expects those who carry His Name to STAND UP for what
is right!! If men don't or won't do it, then the women have to do it. Someone
has got to do it!!!
10.Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might.
11. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
12. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
13.Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
14. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15. and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace.
16.In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of
(the evil one;
17. and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
18. praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication.
"When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn." Prov. 29:2
Abraham Lincoln (1809–65)
QUOTATION: I know that the LORD is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the LORD’S side.
Looks like to me we need more righteous people speaking up! Standing up!
Doing what is right!
Righteousness exalts (lifts up) a nation, but sin is a reproach (shame) for any people.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, also of knowledge and
understanding.
The fear of man bringeth a snare (trap).
PLEASE, NOT ONE WORD OF MY POSTS ARE TO OFFEND BUT TO STIR UP OUR PURE
MINDS AND TO PROVOKE SERIOUS THINKING!
HUGS,
Falla39
Thank you Sister Falla, very insightful post as always. But I am sure some of the political posters here will just overlook it and it will be politics as usual. (Pun intended).
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Thanks! You can’t pay off debt or wipe out debt by creating more debt. It’s very simple really.
My daughter who working at JC Penny part time while attending college called last night. She not been paid in two weeks, they informed the employee's money was tight, but assure them they be paid and some position will be cut. This is happen more and more!
All the while the talking heads try to assure us everything will be fine while they get richer
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
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The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
All the while the talking heads try to assure us everything will be fine while they get richer
Amen!
I think my own position on this issue is crystal clear, this is financial ruin and disaster for the entire country. Rather then let these bad debts die a well deserved death and protect the remaining asset value in place (throughout the entire country), the inflationary cycle this ridiculous bailout plan will create will literally explode inflation by flooding the entire economy with even more bogus money.
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