Have you ever lost confidence in leadership?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by diakonos

I am my own pastor and teacher.

I should give myself more titles.

Diakanos?

Didn’t you get covid ?

And aren’t you kinda buddies with Nicodemus?

And I fuss with him all the time?

And I didn’t get covid?

Do you think it’s a coincidence?

I’m sure it’s not!

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

You should pay yourself more tithe.

I tithe to myself 100%

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Diakanos?

Didn’t you get covid ?

And aren’t you kinda buddies with Nicodemus?

And I fuss with him all the time?

And I didn’t get covid?

Do you think it’s a coincidence?

I’m sure it’s not!

What are you saying? English por favor!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

So you have an apostle, and a prophet, and an evangelist, as well as a pastor, that you are submitted to?

A matter of fact yes I do.

Now, if you are an island to yourself that’s fine. If it’s not broke why fix it.
I myself have submitted my self and my ministry to the ministry, why? Because he gave those offices for the perfecting or the maturing of myself. I don’t believe I have all the answers, so I allow myself to be placed in a position to have all the offices work in my life. The evangelist we both know, it’s my belief he is really an apostle, he has started many churches. He’ll call me and say the “Lord spoke to me to tell you this and that” and it works out perfectly.

I called a Pastor not to far from you, and I told him somethings the Lord gave to me to tell him. Turns out he had some witches from Mexico come to the church and place statues around the church. We’ll within 3 weeks the Pastors wife was diagnosed with breast cancer, several families in the church were sick, and then a young man at the age of 42 had a stroke. That young man is my brother in law, why are you saying this, we’ll because what I told him, he blew off. You’re not my elder... Ok. Lord Bless

We need the ministry in our life, not because it’s a man that wants control, yet God instituted that into the kingdom. You cannot be saved without the ministry.

Who is the prophet?

The relationships you described would be unacceptable for the average saint to be having with their pastor, would they not? I mean, are you sitting in a pew every week listening to an apostle, and then after that a prophet, and then after that an evangelist, and then your pastor? If a brother told you "I have a pastor, he calls me up every so often to say a word to me" would you not suggest to him that may be insufficient?

As for the Mexican witches, if they are able to just harm people - Christians - willy nilly like that then I'd say that church has some deeper problems than ignoring a phone call. Just sayin'.

Tell the evangelist we continue to pray for his efforts.

[diakonos]

He is saying that the evangelist is the prophet.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by diakonos

He is saying that the evangelist is the prophet.

I thought he was saying the evangelist is the apostle?

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I thought he was saying the evangelist is the apostle?

Oh, right. Maybe the other guy told me that the evangelist is a prophet. Idk. Idk anymore.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Oh, right. Maybe the other guy told me that the evangelist is a prophet. Idk. Idk anymore.

I think we get too hung up on titles and wind up missing out on many of the ways God works with his people.

[Amanah]

Are prophets usually "evangelists?"

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I think we get too hung up on titles and wind up missing out on many of the ways God works with his people.