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Old 09-03-2017, 10:30 PM
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Fake news, the unbeliever departs, then the believer is not bound to the unbeliever.
What fake news? Look at your statements in this thread? You posted scripture that says a woman cannot leave a living spouse. Then you post scripture that says you can leave a living spouse. Some one is confused, and it isn't the scripture. You don't believe that anyone has any say on the union, or on the casting away of a spouse. Someone who has documentation that they are married in Florida, can leave their spouse and join someone in Idaho. You believe it is all legit. Even when the government sees the individual still married in Florida.
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I posted 2 exceptions.

One by Jesus and one by Paul.

You can go back and read them.
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And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:34 PM
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15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. ...


27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:35 PM
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These are the 2 exceptions.

I know not any others.
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Re: Marriage Rejuvenation?

The bottomline is this:

Whatsoever proceedeth not from faith is sin.

To partake in a marital ceremony among believers that doesn't involve the state is fine.

What is not fine, however, is, after that ceremony and its consummation, to have doubts about difficulties regarding social security and etc., such as to begin referring to each other with pre-ceremony language.

That is highly suspect. In fact, it makes no logical sense. It strongly suggests, even implies, that until the state recognized marriage takes effect, the authenticity of the marriage as a whole is doubted, even if only subconsciously, such as to cause a reversion of terminology to a premarital state.
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Everyone else is bound by the Law.
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The bottomline is this:

Whatsoever proceedeth not from faith is sin.

To partake in a marital ceremony among believers that doesn't involve the state is fine.

What is not fine, however, is, after that ceremony and its consummation, to have doubts about difficulties regarding social security and etc., such as to begin referring to each other with pre-ceremony language.

That is highly suspect. In fact, it makes no logical sense. It strongly suggests, even implies, that until the state recognized marriage takes effect, the authenticity of the marriage as a whole is doubted, even if only subconsciously, such as to cause a reversion of terminology to a premarital state.
It is best to have a state recognized marriage for financial reasons etc., but not a prerequisite of God.
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The bottomline is this:

Whatsoever proceedeth not from faith is sin.

To partake in a marital ceremony among believers that doesn't involve the state is fine.

What is not fine, however, is, after that ceremony and its consummation, to have doubts about difficulties regarding social security and etc., such as to begin referring to each other with pre-ceremony language.

That is highly suspect. In fact, it makes no logical sense. It strongly suggests, even implies, that until the state recognized marriage takes effect, the authenticity of the marriage as a whole is doubted, even if only subconsciously, such as to cause a reversion of terminology to a premarital state.
And if there was even an ounce of doubt, for any reason, in the legitimacy of the marriage, even in the sense of worrying about being able to draw social security benefits and/or other state benefits, then, the marriage is no longer proceeding from faith; therefore it is sin.

Further, if continued consummation of the marriage is occurring, why doubt about it's legitimacy per SSI and etc., then even that becomes sin.
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And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Why didn't Jesus say if they were also unbelievers? The question Jesus is answering is divorce for any cause. He replies with one answer, fornication. Paul is dealing with something that has to do with an unbeliever. He says "God has called us to peace." What does that mean Sean?
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