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Old 04-24-2017, 06:47 AM
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So, when are you filling out that application for the concentration camps for Muslims?
You know, I'm politically liberal. While I would never advocate concentration camps for Muslims, I will say that I believe they are a danger to our culture and way of life. It appears that they destabilize every nation wherein they become a sizable minority. I honestly don't know what to do with them as far as defending the home front. Being a "religion" they have certain protections. I've entertained the idea of removing religious protections from them and treating them as a hostile political force simply because their religion has a body of law that must be imposed on others as part of it's codified practice and advancement. It is more of a religio-political philosophy. So, classify it as a subversive political movement.

All I know is that at some point, we will have to confront the real and present danger Islam presents.

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Oh, Aquila what war[s] have you fought in?
My unit was deployed to Kosovo to relieve a unit on rotation into the Middle East. I ETSed before I had to get sand in my shorts. So technically, none. And I thank God. I wanted to re-enlist but my wife at the time was a deadest against it. It was either her or the military. So, I chose her. Now she's history and I'm still living with having watched some of my closest friends be deployed to the Middle East. So, I don't like to talk much about it. Counselor's have called it survivor's guilt, blah, blah, blah. Whatever it is, it gives me a bad day.

As far as MOS, I served as a 19K (Tanker, M1 Abrams) when I first enlisted. I got bored after 2 and a half years, so I put in a 4187 to transfer MOS to 91B10 Cav Medic in HHT 2/107th Cav. I was trying to get back on track spiritually, and being a medic was also more in line with my Christian convictions. Being a Medic, I found myself assigned as an attachment to various units for various purposes. I've supported the Air Assault boys out of Ft. Campbell and the 19 Deltas (Cav. Scouts, advanced recon) among others.

You serve?

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Old 04-24-2017, 08:48 AM
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Here is a section from our constitution and bylaws, I think they are influenced by the ideology of Christian Anarchism, what do you think? Is there any fundamental problem with these articles? (They are in our Constitution under Section 4, Paragraphs C, D, E, and F.)
C. Each house church has the right to set its own standards of conduct and dress, befitting a prayerful study of God’s word, which teaches modesty and moderation. The Hearthstone Fellowship will not regulate standards for any house church, desiring each household group to seek God’s views on such matters for themselves.

D. A head of household does not need to be licensed in order to lead his own family, nor does he/she need to be licensed if his/her work expands beyond his/her own household.

E. The Hearthstone Fellowship reserves the right to function as a religious network of Christian believers without government intervention and regulation. Since we receive our authority from God and not from man, we will not seek to be recognized by any body of civil government as an officially incorporated institution. Elders are not to be licensed by any state or government body.

F. Elders serving in Christian ministry within The Hearthstone Fellowship are to disengage civil marriage from Christian marriage in the performance of pastoral duties. Elders are to refuse to serve as agents of the state in marriage. Elders are to decline from signing government provided marriage licenses and/or certificates. Elders are to ask that couples seek civil marriage separately from any church-related vows, promises, commitments, and/or blessings.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:41 AM
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You know, I'm politically liberal. While I would never advocate concentration camps for Muslims, I will say that I believe they are a danger to our culture and way of life. It appears that they destabilize every nation wherein they become a sizable minority. I honestly don't know what to do with them as far as defending the home front. Being a "religion" they have certain protections. I've entertained the idea of removing religious protections from them and treating them as a hostile political force simply because their religion has a body of law that must be imposed on others as part of it's codified practice and advancement. It is more of a religio-political philosophy. So, classify it as a subversive political movement.

All I know is that at some point, we will have to confront the real and present danger Islam presents.
A - I keep going back to comparing the Muslim religion to the Japanese religion during and prior to WW2. We had to basically make them rework their entire religious viewpoint, to bring them into what we call a "normal" society.
Dealing with the Muslim religion is far more complex and we do not have the guts to deal with it, now.
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Biblical theonomic thinking clears up any confusion about "what to do about Islam".

Muslims destabilize by one of two means: either conquest by the sword, or by demanding and getting special protections and rights from majority populations that are infected with the mental disease of multiculturalism and liberal "toleration".

Any society that is determined that its own culture SHALL NOT BE MOVED is in no danger of anything except military conquest. And Islam is not capable of any combined military conquest of Christian society. That's already been proven, several times.

God is in control of the nations. Have some faith.
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A - I keep going back to comparing the Muslim religion to the Japanese religion during and prior to WW2. We had to basically make them rework their entire religious viewpoint, to bring them into what we call a "normal" society.
Dealing with the Muslim religion is far more complex and we do not have the guts to deal with it, now.
Sad but true.

My fellow liberals need to wake up on this one. Islam stands for everything a liberal detests. I can't imagine how a liberal could possibly be an advocate for Islam. I can see being an advocate for religious freedom and taking a stand against persecution. However, wouldn't that place the liberal firmly against Islam?

I'd definitely like to slap a few of my liberal friends about this one. One liberal commentator/comedian gets it, Bill Maher:




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Biblical theonomic thinking clears up any confusion about "what to do about Islam".

Muslims destabilize by one of two means: either conquest by the sword, or by demanding and getting special protections and rights from majority populations that are infected with the mental disease of multiculturalism and liberal "toleration".

Any society that is determined that its own culture SHALL NOT BE MOVED is in no danger of anything except military conquest. And Islam is not capable of any combined military conquest of Christian society. That's already been proven, several times.

God is in control of the nations. Have some faith.
In my opinion, theonomic thinking is the very same kind of thinking we see in Muslims who wish to subjugate society to the Quran and the Hadiths.
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I believe that human liberty is holy and sacred... even when men choose to sin in such liberty.

Why? For it is only in the context of liberty that one's desire to serve God is truly unaffected by any form of authorative outside coercion.

For example, if a theonomic government controlled the production and sale of all clothing and forced us all to dress like the Amish in the name of holiness... it wouldn't be holy. Why? Because it isn't a genuine, self-realized, desire of dress based on an individual desire to please God.

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Old 05-18-2017, 08:07 AM
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Christian Anarchism Defined:
Christian anarchism is a movement in political theology that claims anarchism is inherent in Christianity and the Gospels. It is grounded in the belief that there is only one source of authority to which Christians are ultimately answerable, the authority of God as embodied in the teachings of Jesus, and thus rejects the idea that human governments have ultimate authority over human societies. Christian anarchists denounce the state as they claim it is violent, deceitful and, when glorified, idolatrous. Christian anarchists hold that the proper relationship between God and people is the "Reign of God" in which human relationships would be characterized by divided authority, servant leadership, and universal compassion rather than the hierarchical, authoritarian structures normally attributed to religion.

More than any other Bible source, the Sermon on the Mount is used as the basis for Christian anarchism. Most Christian anarchists are pacifists and reject the use

Bible passages cited by Christian anarchists:
◾My kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36).
◾We are to obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29).
◾To seek rule by man is to reject the rule of God (1 Samuel 8).
◾Christians struggle against governments, rulers, and spiritual wickedness (Ephesians 6:12).
◾Honest people are too busy making an honest living to accept political power, so only the corruptible will accept political power (Judges 9:7-15 The Parable of the Trees).
◾The devil offers all kingdoms to Jesus in return for worshipping him.(Matthew 4:8-10).
◾The gentiles have rulers over them, but it shall not be so among *Christians (Mark 10:42-45). (Notice that the word for rulers here in the Greek is archos. Therefore some say Christians are by simple deduction an-archos or in English anarchists).
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:40 PM
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Christian Anarchists generally believe in:
- Radical separation of church & state.
- Obeying laws that serve the common good.
- Practice pacifism.
- Oppose war.
- Oppose serving on juries.
- Oppose oaths.
- Abstain from voting, or vote for the common good.
- Oppose discrimination in all forms.
- Do not pledge allegiance to the state.
- Do not support church incorporation.
- Do not support state minister's licensing.
- Oppose state marriage licensing.
- Oppose institutional religion.
- Oppose political partisanship in the church.
- Oppose institutionalized religious hierarchy.
- Embrace communal fellowship.
- Believe in stewardship over ownership.
- Believe in distribution of tax revenues for the common good.
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Update...

Christian Anarchists generally believe in:
- Radical separation of church & state.
- Obeying laws that serve the common good.
- Practice pacifism.
- Oppose war.
- Oppose serving on juries.
- Oppose oaths.
- Abstain from voting, or vote for the common good.
- Oppose discrimination in all forms.
- Do not pledge allegiance to the state.
- Do not support church incorporation.
- Do not support state minister's licensing.
- Oppose state marriage licensing.
- Oppose institutional religion.
- Oppose political partisanship in the church.
- Oppose institutionalized religious hierarchy.
- Embrace communal fellowship.
- Believe in stewardship over ownership.
- Believe in distribution of tax revenues for the common good.
One cannot be a "Christian anarchist". Anarchy means "no rule". Christians are monarchists. Jesus Christ is our King, there is no "separation of church and state" in the kingdom of God (that's just Baptist-Masonic secularism which results in exactly what we have today - an all out assault on Christianity and an attempted removal of Christianity from the public sphere).

Besides, you're a socialist, you supported Bernie, you support government control of health care, you believe in "distribution of tax revenues for the common good" aka "wealth redistribution" aka socialist destruction of private capital.

"Stewardship over ownership"? You mean abolition of private property?

Is there even one of Marx's "planks" you disagree with?
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